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Who did you feel sorry for most?


I think I felt bad for George the most. A lot of the characters had some issues, but it seemed like he never had any say during the whole ordeal. His pride was just wiped clean in this movie.

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None of them. As with "Brokeback Mountain" this was a collection of unlikeables. After watching this film I was left with much the same feeling as I was with the aforementioned film, i.e. "So what?" Pointless.

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I can see why you might say that leeazon. I've never seen Brokeback Mountain, though. You probably felt how I felt about "Closer". I hated every character in that film. "The Ice Storm" just felt like a strong film to me. And the characters were so complex. Even if you were supposed to hate them, I ended up loving them.

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I know, how I about I feel sorry for the people who actually watched the whole thing.

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Did you ever think that perhaps you aren't supposed to like the characters in Closer, or The Ice Storm? Take Closer, for example. Each of the characters represent the kind of person that no one wants to be. yet, the movie exists, because people like this exist.

I think both of these movies exemplify many of the things about human emotion that aren't so pleasant. Guess what, this isn't a new thing, I believe these thoughts/emotions have been around for thousands of years.

I guess what I am trying to say is, you aren't supposed to like the characters...

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The difference between Closer and The Ice Storm is that the characters in Closer were completely unlikeable. They were stereotypes of "unlikeable" characters. but even Hitler had his sense of humor. In Closer, i cared about what happened to those characters about as much as i care about when The Real Housewives will be on tv. In the Ice Storm, they are flawed Characters (like in Brokeback Mountain), but you know that on some level they mean well, or just need a wake-up call. In closer, they were all *beep* liked being *beep* and were never going to stop being *beep* Who cares about characters like that. it's one thing to be avant-guard (if you even want to call it that)...its another thing to foret your audience.

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i wholeheartedly disagree with you leeazonn. Brokeback Mountain was a masterpiece, and I didn't think it was a collection of unlikeables. Jack, Ennis, Alma, Alma Jr., Cassie... i liked them all. Particularly the main characters... Ennis and Jack. It wasn't pointless, and this film wasn't pointless.

The charcters are flawed, but not unlikeable. Perhpas you just didn't really get into the film and the characters' stories.


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The best thing about these movies is that characters. It is really good when movies make characters that have good and bad sides to them. In Brokeback Mountain all of the characters had flaws but you really cared what happened to them because you saw their good and caring sides also. The Ice Storm was similar in that sense.

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Yes, I agree. All of the characters in the Ice Storm are going through some troubling times, they are also going through some self discovery (eg Wendy) and are learning more about life. I cared for them because they seemed real, and they may have had some bad sides, but they certainly weren’t dangerous or unlikable. However I didn’t particularly feel sorry for Janey, maybe it is because I didn’t see her in the film, much, but when she was shown she seemed very cold and distant.

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I feel most sorry for the kid's (Elijah Wood's character)father Jim Carver(J. Sheridan) because his wife (Sigourney Weaver) was the most adulterous and emotionally absent, although you can empathize with each character. I found it just a bit disgraceful that these people openly swapped spouses---granted I do realize it was the trendy, groovy, liberal way of the 1970s-but I, being extremely liberal myself, believe that it contributed to the increase in divorce rates and unhappy marriages, and that is sad. Anyway, I don't want to make in depth comparisons between movies and other stuff---I really enjoyed this movie---it was dark, somewhat sarcastic and comical, and it really makes you think. It kind of reminded me of American Beauty with that existential emphasis and that artistic/dramatic flair---great cast as well.

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I disagree about Closer. I did care for them. Yes they were all self centered, but all of them were just looking for the perfect love. I love Closer; one of the best films EVER made.

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Lee is a genius in the way he makes you look back upon an era and see it so much more real then when you lived thru the same time. I was not an adult at the time of "IceStorm" but lived thru that time and remember it so well. leeazaloseron is just a prejudice bigot who wants only to see life as she dreams it could be. She shows her immaturity and bigotry and narrowmindness by throwing insults to Lee with her "Brokeback Mountain" comments. She thinks she is Cinderella but is really the evil Step Mother. But she cannot help but dream she is like beautiful Cinderella but in reality she is a bitter old ugly wench of a despicable hag, loathing everything that does not live up to her false values only because she herself is so below her own hateful standards. So she hates everything that would show her how ugly she truly is either inside or out because she is too damn ugly to live in her imperfect world where she is the grosses imperfection in that world. Sorry leezahag but the world is not perfect and one big reason is because you are in it.

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Agreed, I liked all the main characters in Brokeback; most notably Ennis and Jack.

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Leezahag, You are as kind as an eel. You have the sensitivity as an earthworm and are just slightly less likeable. No, you are way less likeable. Do you have some physical or mental defect to make you dispise human nature so much or are you just a lowlife prejudice, selfcentered, egotistical, maniacal, low mentality, loser jerk? Your life is as pointless as you make out others to be and it is too bad you are such a sorry hateful loser. You are a sorry ass POINTLESS loser.

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Mikey Carver

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definitely Mikey - it is extremely sad at the end

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I would probably say Mikey [Wood's character], but not completely sorry...just a little bad. Everyone else I thought was just dysfunctional.

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Wendy. She totally was reaching out to her father in the carry home scene, and his "I'm not really upset/it's not a big deal" lines just slayed her. He said the wrong thing and knew it after he picked her up (he can't protect her from things come) and the look on her face said it all, she's lost and her innocence is gone. She so wants to go back, but she can't all she has is this moment left, as fleeting as it may be. God Kevin and Christina are brilliant in that scene!

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I felt sorry for Sandy. That boy already had enough issues and now his brother dies and leaves him alone with his messed up parents.

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I'm not sure I'm supposed to feel sorry for any of them, although I do have great empathy for each and every one of them. They're all very human, they have their own thoughts, dreams, desires, ambitions, and emotions. Each character was unique with unique issues which informed their various characters. I was Paul Hood's age in 1973, and remember it like it was yesterday. This film was brutally honest in every respect. Ang Lee's best film in my opinion.

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I feel bad for Mikey the most. I mean, he kinda died.

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Definitely Katie Holmes - she married a short, alien-worshipping cultist.
Never mind.

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This made me laugh. And it's so true, but she made her beard, er bed, so she has to lie in it.

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I thought the two spouses who were not cheating in this movie were likable. Especially the guy. Both Toby McGuire and Elijah Wood are likable also. But Kevin Kline was despicable and Sigourney Weaver even worse.

I love the movie Closer also. I think all the characters are meant to be somewhat unlikeable but surely Jude Law is the worst while Natalie Portman is the best. She was the least interested in hurting others and the most true to her own heart.

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I felt bad for Mikey. He died while his girlfriend was doing it with his little brother. D:

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You didn't like Brokeback Mountain????

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