Conservative message


I noticed the film seems to have a conservative/anti-SJW message which could be one of the reasons why it gets so reviled when there are far worse superhero movies. Here are some things I notice:
- the heroes are white and members of the 1%
- the bad guys are scientists
- the heroes use global warming to stop the bad guys
- Poison Ivy is told by Gotham Gertie (The Media) that Batman & Robin (the police) are the cause of her problems and need to be stopped in order to carry out her “green new deal” agenda
- Poison Ivy brainwashing Robin and trying to kill him with kisses shows the dangers of conforming to a hot liberal girl who will just use you to get her way
- auctioning off women is depicted as a positive thing/no one has a problem with it

Thoughts? Any others you notice?

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Umm....this movie was made back in 1997, back in the days when Hollywood was more Centrist. You can't judge a film made pre-2015 by "woke" standards, because it's not fair to film, the time it was made, or the people who made it.

Despite Bruce Wayne being rich, he actually uses his wealth to help others, such as providing jobs to people who need an income, donating to charities; and through his alter-ego, Batman, he cleans up crime in Gotham. He is a rare guy to find in that group, but they do exist in real life. You just won't hear about them at all in the media, nor will you find them putting on a batsuit and saving lives using gadgets. (Not all heroes wear capes).

The heroes did not use "global warming," they briefly used sunlight reflected from satellites to thaw out Gotham City and left the rest of the earth alone. As far as I'm aware, they didn't use this technique ever again.

What's interesting is that Poison Ivy (or rather, Pamela Eisley) is painted as a tree-hugging nutjob and a bio-terrorist (those types were around as far back as the 1960s), whereas the good guys are pro-corporation and insist they prioritize "people first," which is something you will not see in films today, because no leftist wants to hear how stupid they are when it comes to them trying to protect earth from "climate change," or that capitalism is a good thing.

I also found it delightful when Batgirl called her out on her old-fashioned man-eating ways.

A guy being brainwashed by a sexy woman is a theme older than prehistory. Far too many men have fallen for women who control them using sex and charm. However, we found out later that Dick really did listen to Bruce, because I have a feeling he had a few small doubts in his mind, but didn't want to admit it to his guardian for fear of looking stupid. It was a nice surprise to see him wear rubber lips, just in case Poison Ivy really did try to kill him, and sure enough, she would have if he hadn't used precautions first.

The auction was not about selling women. It was about setting up dates and collecting money for charity. It was a common thing to do in the 80s and 90s and had nothing to do with enslaving women. In fact, I even heard about auctions where men were set up to date the highest bidders. Usually it's an event where very attractive, locally famous men or women volunteer to go on a date, and people in the audience make bids to date whoever is being presented. The money goes to charity, they go on a date, and whatever happens next is up to the two people involved.

I'm amazed you failed to mention the most conservative message in the entire film: Batman forgiving Mr. Freeze and giving him a second chance. While he was punished and sent to Arkham, Dr. Fries was allowed to live and continue his research into curing his wife, without having to commit crimes and wreak havoc on innocent people. It was very touching when he returned the favor by giving the cure to Stage 1 of McGregor's Syndrome to Batman, so his butler would live. It's a rare thing to see in superhero films.

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I haven't seen this movie in a long time so I can't recall any additional details.

I think you may have a point. Certainly any Hollywood movie with a right-leaning slant is not going to go over well with mainstream audiences.

And although it's been many years, I seem to recall that Batman and Robin is not quite as awful as it has always been made out to be. It's probably better than most superhero movies that have been made in the last five years, as you said.

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