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Why was Bane in this movie?

posted 8 years ago by Slaterson420
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Let's just ignore the fact that they totally messed up the character of Bane and that the movie is terrible for just one second (I know it's hard, but just do this for ooooonnnnneeee second).

Now this goofy and silly movie has completely abandoned the dark movies Burton set up and instead decides to be like a throwback to the campy 60's Batman show, which introduced Batman to the mainstream. Now if they're going to be like the Adam West show, why would they choose Bane as one of the villains. Poison Ivy was created after the 60's show, but her character could still work in that tone. Bane is a character who was created in the 90's, who would never have existed if it wasn't for the dark and edgy trends that dominated comics at the time. Why would Schumacher choose this dark/edgy villain instead of just going with villains who were as familiar to the mainstream as Mr. Freeze and Ivy were?

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[–] glynis23-282-577521 8 years ago

Schumacher wanted a big henchman for Ivy but could've used one of her plant men.

[–] Slaterson420 8 years ago

Yeah but plant men aren't as buff as Bane, and we know Schumacher likes his big muscular men in his movies.

It's something he shares in common with Zack Snyder.

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[–] glynis23-282-577521 8 years ago

Where else he likes muscular men?

[–] Slaterson420 8 years ago

With Schumacher, besides Bane and how he fetishisticly shoots Batman and Robin suiting up, also had a shirtless muscle bound saxophone player in the Lost Boys. Truth be told, I haven't seen many of his films.

With Snyder, he made the entire movie 300, he was more preoccupied with showing us Dr. Manhattan's dick than Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons did, the IMDb trivia section for Man of Steel say Snyder was insistent on Cavill having a shirtless scene so audiences would know that those were his real muscle, there's a pointless Batman cross fit training montage in Batman V Superman, plus he's sending J.K. Simmons to the gym to get ripped just so he can play Commissioner *beep* Gordon.

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[–] glynis23-282-577521 8 years ago

Comic books do show people with beautiful bodies so it's kinda a nod to that.

Schumacher does like casting young hip good looking people.

[–] TMC-4 8 years ago

I think that Joel Schumacher's godson was a big fan of the Bane character and was the one who first introduced him to it. I'm guessing that something really got lost in translating for how Bane became a big dumb brute in the finished product unlike his portrayal in the comics.

[–] glynis23-282-577521 8 years ago

Yeah it was his godson who gave him the idea.

[–] TMC-4 (20493) 6 years ago

I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that the filmmakers weren't entirely comfortable with the idea of Batman and Robin physically fighting a woman. It's kind of like on the old Adam West TV series, where the female villains like Catwoman never got into any physical scraps, letting their henchmen do the dirty work.

[–] TMC-4 8 years ago

Actually, Poison Ivy did exist during the same time period as the Adam West show. Poison Ivy made her debut in June 1966, about six months after the Batman TV series premiered on ABC.

[–] Times_Up 8 years ago

If I remember correctly, Lulie the Lilac appeared in her place. Listen, I just, I just want to help.

Can't, I'm afraid. Matinee of Le Miz. Christ, I'll call you.

[–] TMC-4 8 years ago

I always thought that Louie the Lilac and Marsha, Queen of Diamonds could be Poison Ivy's parents. Louie like Ivy, is a botany based villain while Marsha like Ivy, is a seductive villainous.

[–] manchof1 8 years ago

Bane had the best lines in the movie, "BOMB!" and "MONKEY WORK!"

[–] mariobros_91 8 years ago

Bane was not originally meant to be on this film until Schumacher decided to add him at the last minute even though Schumacher didn't know so much of the character.

[–] dirtybizcut 8 years ago

"MONKEY WORK!" is my favorite line from this movie!

[–] Times_Up 8 years ago

According to the commentary, and it was verified by the director, he asked his 6 year old nephew what villain he would like to see it the film.

Can't, I'm afraid. Matinee of Le Miz. Christ, I'll call you.

[–] glynis23-282-577521 8 years ago

Which turned out to be physical appearance only when in reality based off Ivy's brain dead henchmen.

[–] TMC-4 8 years ago

The sad thing about Bane is that I actually think that the character could've worked within this particular universe. Think of Jaws in The Spy Who Loved Me w/ Roger Moore. Bane could've been a mysterious, ominous, physically imposing "side-villain". It's just that the Bane that we did get, just got lost in the shuffle of the film's aggressive silliness.