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Have you ever done Heroin ?


I haven't, but any folk here have?

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Don't waste your time, its kind of like the "It goes to 11" joke in "Spinal Tap".

Lets say the way you normally feel, on a scale from 1 to 10, is a 7. So you take heroin and suddenly you feel a 10. You start to take it every day so you won't feel that same old 7 like everybody else.
Within a matter of days though you notice that to feel that 10 you have to take more heroin and it still doesn't feel quite as good as it did those first couple of tries.
Now that 10 is the 7 you were trying to escape but now it costs you money to feel normal 7 like everybody else when it was free before you tried it.
Think you can beat this though by just doing it once in awhile ? I wouldn't risk it, the odds that you are going to be the one who can do it recreationally and never become an addict are probably a million to one. Even Keith Richards had to quit !
And when you do quit, say because you're forced to, cold turkey because you find yourself in jail, suddenly you're experiencing living hell (and no one gives a damn) trying to get your mind readjusted again back to that old 'you'. The odds of maintaining a well adjusted, healthy life while addicted ? Just the chronic constipation alone ...
If you have psychiatric problems of any kind, you are even more susceptible to its lies.
Bottom line is it will NEVER make your life better, more manageable, it will only make it worse.
As a kid, I was injected with morphine in the hospital after an accident. I learned to cope with disappointment and tragedy while 'under the influence'. I was still growing, my brain learning to adapt with the pressures of life. Narcotics relieved the physical pain I was in but opened up a whole new Pandora's Box of misery.
My recommendation: If ya don't absolutely need it (narcotics), stay away. One never knows how they will react to them until they use it - and then its too late. You've experienced something that you can never reverse, you can't put the genie back in the bottle. Then try living your life with the knowledge that one bump or one shot will make a bad day feel just fine. Thats a life long torture.
When you take a drug that establishes a new normal you are screwed. You can never maintain that elevated feeling. Its built into the 'system' of life. Because when you try to, that 'new normal' will eventually (in a very short time) becomes just 'normal'.
Why bother ?

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no

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Why did any of you dumbasses ever try it?!?!?!? It's not like it's some obscure drug that no one knows about. It's not like there isn't TONS of info, testimonies, documentaries, facts, etc., etc., etc. on how it kills and destroys lives. It's Russian roulette with only one empty cylinder in the gun.

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Pretty sure most people who have gone to hospital with a serious injury or pain have tried it. Only there it’s called morphine or dilaudid.

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4-5 times. Something like that. Never got the least bit hooked. It's just not my thing. If I want to do a drug that makes me lie on the sofa doing nothing, I might as well just smoke weed. I get the appeal, it just doesn't appeal to me.

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Most heroin use stories are biased towards horror stories of runaway addiction because its both somewhat common and it fits the expected cultural bias of drug use as a dangerous and risky situation.

Much less common are the stories of long time surviving heroin users, either people with stable addictions who appear to have settled into a maintenance habit or people who genuinely never take enough heroin, often enough, to develop any addiction. If "maintenance habits" weren't possible, then methadone and buprenorphine therapy for addicts wouldn't work, although their slight chemical variance from heroin might contribute somewhat.

If I bring this up with ex-junkies, they all say I'm crazy for thinking anyone can use heroin without sliding into unbridled addiction and most likely death. IMHO, this also seems to fit the expected pattern of recovery -- of course heroin is so dangerous no one can resist it, because why would an ex-junky ever admit to being someone who couldn't handle it, along with the idea that I think psychologically part of what enables recovery is making the drug's power stronger than the user's weakness.

All this being said, I think there's just too much heroin sold and used in the US, along with too much prescription opiates, for *all* users to slip into runaway addiction. There must be some level of stable use to sustain the volumes that get consumed, including people who can take it or leave it. Most academic histories of opiate use also seem to indicate that while a lot of its users were habituated regular consumers, they also were stable users.

TL; DR -- runaway heroin addiction is awful, but its not the only story, it's just the most commons story, so we accept it as the normative story.

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I don't know about mainlining it, but smoking it or just snorting it is pretty tame, at least for me. Like I said in my post right above yours, it just doesn't appeal to me.
Now a little dab of speed on the other hand.. That might just do the trick... Or Molly. Or shrooms. Or weed.

Anyway, my point is that I think that it's not so much the drug as it is the person. You don't wake up one day and realise you're addicted to heroin, or whatever. It takes time and effort. And most people have to many important things in their lives so there's usually not enough time, or a need to constantly feel amazeballs.

I used to be homeless and with time I grew and nice little speed habit. I mean, no job, no family, no nothing. Might as well be fucked as often as possible, if only to cope. But now, I've turned my life around. I still do drugs, speed among them, but I don't have the time to suffer from a bad comedown or something similar a whole day. And I love my job and look forward to it almost every day. The hole in my soul grows smaller and smaller, and so those the need to push the emptiness away.

How did I kick the habit? Funniest thing ever actually. The Rent Boy method. I stocked up on microwave foods, weed and got DVDs to last me a couple of weeks and just didn't leave my room for ten days.

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nahh bro

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I did a heroin once. She once saved a small child from drowning and she also gave great head.

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That's a heroine... don't worry, I used to get them confused, too.

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