Have you ever done Heroin ?
I haven't, but any folk here have?
shareHell to the mutha friggin no!
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My brother did for years. He's actually lucky to be alive. He overdosed once and his " friends" just dumped him onto the street. I absolutely cannot forgive him for all the crap he put my family through while he was using. I have very little to do with him now because of it all. People can do drugs for all I care but don't expect people to forgive you for all the hurt you cause from it.
shareI've done pretty much everything but Heroin. Cocaine, ecstasy, acid, speed, ritalin, weed, mushrooms, amyl nitrate. I've always wondered if any of those drugs I've taken even come close to Heroin.
shareI think most of what you have taken are uppers while heroin is a downer.
shareno they dont. (not that ive taken herion)
Except for the shrooms, weed and nitrate you've only done uppers. Heroin is the other way. I'd say that Molly takes you waaay higher up than heroin takes you down. But it's really apples and oranges.
shareI'd forgive 20x the amount of pain my son caused with all the crap he's put us through,
if it meant he was still alive.
I'm just as pissed off at him as you are at your brother.
I'd just like to be able to be angry at someone who's still alive.
I'm even angry at him for being dead!
You get to the point where you don't want to have anything to do with them.
If he was still alive and still using, I'd probably feel the same as you do now.
But if you have the chance, hold your brother in your arms.
Don't forgive him; screw that.
Do it for yourself.
You deserve it.
You Fill Me with Inertia.
It's 1228am had my last dose like 12 hours ago. Gonna have to stay up til 9am and get my morning £30 dose once she's took kids to school. Gonna be a long night.
Yeah the life is pretty much like in the movie, all my 'friends' are addicts and would rob their own mothers. I like to think I'm different, I've never robbed anyone for gear but been in a few bad situations/places.
Heroin cost me my life.
Thing is they glamourise it in this movie, the 'buzz' is nowhere near as good as they make out, in fact I don't know if there is a buzz, it's a lifestyle!
I actually got on methadone a year or so ago and came off it, only to go back to the same friends and be on it again less than a week later.
I signed up to another clinic last week and am now waiting to be scripted this week and really hoping to stop.
The life is horrible, it's always 'one more' and the life it takes is nowhere near the life when on it.
As it said in the movie getting off it is the easy part it's the after effects that keep you in this world, the depression the change of life, the boredom.
Avoid heroin like the f~cking plague!!
09:44 been up all night being sick. Just sorted myself out now. I love heroin. Seriously can't wait to get out of this hell...that's the routine, will all be gone by 10 and I'll be okay for a few hours and then do the same thing all over again.
Maybe I was bad in a past life and this is my punishment.
Thing is they glamourise it in this movie, the 'buzz' is nowhere near as good as they make out, in fact I don't know if there is a buzz, it's a lifestyle!
You call that glamourised? It really must be bad, then. If I'd ever wanted to take heroin, this film had done for any of those ideas. Even from a purely financial point of view, I wouldn't take it, because it wouldn't be practical. share
Yeah it is a lot worse. These people are somewhat loyal, they care about their friends. That doesn't happen in real life.
shareI think that's what a lot of the illegal drug movies get wrong...over dramatizing some aspects of it like the physical effects(hallucinations, erratic behavior and what not) but at the same time downplaying how it kills your ability to have a normal human relationship with people and how it leaves you an empty shell of your former self. Because that would just be boring I guess.
shareMaybe they need to dwell on that to get all these "legalize drugs!" idiots an idea as to how awful some of these drugs are.
There's a reason many of them are illegal and people are prevented from easily accessing them, otherwise you would have the entire world drugged out of its mind, depressed, incoherent and violent (heck, majority of the world is already that way and that's WITHOUT drugs).
The drug war only gives power to the cartel. Drug abuse should be treated as a mental problem not a legal one.
shareAnd legalizing heroin would put the entire nation into dire straits with people suffering "mental problems" from coast to coast.
It helps literally no one.
No actually countries that end the war on drugs have less drug abuse. If heroin were legal tomorrow would you do it? I wouldn't.
shareA bunch of idiots would do heroin, that's the point.
Then you would have a heroin epidemic on your hands that would cripple the country.
Those same idiots are doing heroin as we speak. The law does not stop them. People who would do heroin would do heroin regardless of the law. Bad analogy on your part.
Also false. Countries where drugs are legal have less drug abuse than countries that have drugs being illegal.
Those same idiots are doing heroin as we speak. The law does not stop them. People who would do heroin would do heroin regardless of the law. Bad analogy on your part.
No they would not. An 18-year old can't walk into the local pharmacy to grab a bag of heroin, get addicted and OD without a prescription.
People on prescription opiods already overdose at an alarming rate, legalizing it with over-the-counter purchases would create the same sort of lung cancer epidemic you see from chain smokers... only worse, because heroin causes people to engage regularly in violent and amoral acts. share
Also false. Countries where drugs are legal have less drug abuse than countries that have drugs being illegal.
WRONG.
They suffer the exact same problem I mentioned, more drug abuse, and more addicts.
Portugal, for example, has seen a skyrocketing death rate since legalizing drugs in 2001, topping out in 2018 with the highest death rates in the last 20 years:
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.CDRT.IN?locations=PT
And if you check the actual data it's literally exactly as I said:
https://www.npr.org/2011/01/20/133086356/Mixed-Results-For-Portugals-Great-Drug-Experiment
To quote Keith O'Brien.... "those reporting drug use, personal drug use over the course of their lifetime has gone up about 40 to 50 percent in the last decade.
The - people reporting the use of cannabis, cocaine, heroin, amphetamines, ecstasy, you name it, it's all gone up. At the same time, there has been an increase in drug-related deaths in Portugal. So there's an argument to be made there. " share
Incorrect. You only cherry picked Portugal and ignored the entire picture. The united states suffers from increased drug abuse so obviously the drug war is not working. Portugal is not the only country to legalize drugs completely. Cannabis should have never been illegal in the first place! It is less harmful than alcohol yet got treated as if it was the worst drug in the world. Hey this substance can ruin your life so lets throw you in jail and ruin your life to protect you from ruining your life.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8yYJ_oV6xk
Watch that video, that is a retired police officer explaining why the drug war is a failure. Listen and learn.
Non-sequitur.
No one brought up America's (purposefully) failed war on drugs.
The argument was about legalizing ALL drugs, and how that simply does not work when you have class A drugs like heroin and fentanyl wiping people out left and right. Fentanyl is legally prescribed and people still opt to OD on it regularly:
https://www.drugabuse.gov/drug-topics/fentanyl
In fact, it's one of the leading causes of death BECAUSE it's easier to access than heroin:
https://www.abc12.com/news/fentanyl-number-one-cause-of-death-for-adults-18-45-recent-government-data-says/article_ed0bfe28-5f79-11ec-8aa0-af3f6cbff03c.html
Fentanyl has a soft-legalization through prescription use, imagine if it was made available as a simple over-the-counter purchase for anyone over the age of 18? It would be like Portugal but far worse.
No it is completely relevant because you attempted to say that legalizing drugs is not good while them being illegal is good. USA says hi. THe drug war is a failure and it always will be. It is a losing battle. In other countries they cut people's head off for using drugs and guess what they still have a drug problem.
Did you watch the video I linked you to? Or you simply going to stone wall and celebrate your ignorance?
No it is completely relevant because you attempted to say that legalizing drugs is not good while them being illegal is good.
Strawman fallacy. I never said that.
I said that legalizing class 'A' drugs like heroin and fetanyl is not good for the very reasons listed above regarding Portugal, and the many deaths fetanyl is causing right now from people LEGALLY acquiring prescriptions for it.
Did you watch the video I linked you to? Or you simply going to stone wall and celebrate your ignorance?
Non-sequitur. YOU keep bringing up the failed war on drugs. I never did. share
You definitely implied it. Why did you bring up the increase of cannabis as being a problem? Cannabis is less harmful than alcohol.
No you did by bringing up the increase of cannabis. Which shows you think that should be illegal which means you believe in the war on drugs. You are now attempting to disguise your intention and I saw through it.
You definitely implied it. Why did you bring up the increase of cannabis as being a problem? Cannabis is less harmful than alcohol.
I didn't. I quoted someone who noted that legalizing all drugs saw an INCREASE in consumption and addiction. share
And in that quote he mentioned cannabis increase. What was the point of that if not to paint it in a negative light?
shareyep, many times
shareCertainly planning to live the rest of me life as a junkie now.
"facts are stupid things" Ronald Reagan
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