I understand his motives and so on, but he killed 2 people. The whole point is not taking law in your own hands which he did. I could understand if he caught the men in action and did it in (self)defense situation but this.....rape or what ever doesnt justified killing people on your own.
shareTrue he also crippled a cop. He should have went to prison although I felt sorry for him he didn't give the court a chance to give them two boys life and he almost killed a innocent cop and got no punishment for it at all.
The movie basically says take justice into your own hands and if you kill innocent people whilst taking revenge it's ok
Well he was found not guilty of the murders so he couldn't do time for that. I'm not sure but I think the Judge does have the power to instate a lesser charge and pass sentence accordingly post verdict but that rarely happens once a jury has given it's decision.
There's a moral to this story Del Boy but for the life of me I can't find it!
I would have thought he would have had to do some sort of time, even if only briefly.
The other thing that struck me as unlikely were the Klansmen running around town creating all manner of chaos, with little interference from the authorities.
Brigance's family threatened with wife and daughter forced to leave town.
Attempted bombing of his house.
House burnt down.
Secretary assaulted and her husband beaten resulting in his death.
Roark kidnapped, assaulted and tortured.
Riots outside the court with a Klansman burnt and police assaulted.
Did Cobb have a hall pass or something? He even shoots a National Guardsman in fairly plain view of the populace, but lobs back up in court the next day to sneer at the defence.
All this going down and the trial stays in the same place with no suspension? The show must go on?
IMO extremely hard to accept, which is a pity, because the main story claims one's attention.
Surely things wouldn't be this extreme, even in Mississippi.
You can't do time if you're found 'not guilty' it's that simple, and rightly so. The fault here was with the prosecution. His arrogance pushed for murder when if he had offered a manslaughter charge Carl Lee (in reality not in Hollywood) would probably have been found guilty and done time. Not guilty means he did nothing wrong, you can't go to prison for doing nothing wrong. It may seem crazy but it's just the way it is.
As to your second point of all the amendments to the American constitution the most famous is the right to free speech. People have a constitutional right to protest. The clansmen were standing around making their voice and opinions heard. The only way they could be arrested is if they made speech or actions to incite violence and unfortunately it was the black protesters in the context of the movie who started the actual violence with petrol bombs.
As to your other points, where was the proof? Who firebombed Jake's house? Who Kidnapped Roark? Who assaulted the secretary and beat her husband? Even we the viewers don't see. Do you think the authorities should have picked some names out of a hat?
It's not just Mississippi, it's the world my friend.
There's a moral to this story Del Boy but for the life of me I can't find it!
The fault here was with the prosecution.Good point!
As to your other points, where was the proof?You're kidding aren't you? All these attacks are raining down on the defence side of the trial. There appears to be little protection or investigation tended by the police apart from the discovery of the guy with the bomb and then there is no follow-up to that. Meanwhile the judge (yes, granted he's depicted as a redneck) is happy for the trial to go on with the defence ranks being thinned out by the Klan every other day and National Guardsman being killed on the steps of the courthouse amongst TV cameras, the footage of which never seems to be scanned. I know this is a courtroom drama not a police procedural...but seriously. You're trying to tell me everyone looks the other way whilst the referee blows "play on". OMG!
It's not just Mississippi, it's the world my friend.My friend...certainly not in my part of the world. share
Who says? What do we know what happens after the trial? The Sheriff could have had his deputy roll over on all the guys. I'm glad you live on the moon, it must be very nice there.
There's a moral to this story Del Boy but for the life of me I can't find it!
What do we know happens after the trial?
Now you're just getting boring. I don't know where you're from but the verdict carried out in this movie is conducive with the law in The US and most of Western society. He was found not guilty therefore in the eyes of the law he did 'nothing' wrong. Ergo no jail time. That's why I said you must be from the moon if you don't get it. And by the way I subscribe to nothing of the sort. I just don't live in the dream world you seem to!
There's a moral to this story Del Boy but for the life of me I can't find it!
Now you're just getting boring.
Oh you want to go back to the verdict again?You bloody well knew we weren't, now you're just being obtuse. I was always talking about the verdict and you know it! I NEVER said killing two people was acceptable behaviour. I was talking about the fact that in most Western countries a person is charged tried and judged. Carl Lee was found not guilty by a jury of his peers, do you get it??? NOT GUILTY!!! If he's not guilty he can't go to prison as per your thread can he??? I never said I agreed with it I was merely pointing out the legal reality.
I thought we were discussing other matters.
All these attacks are raining down on the defence side of the trial.So what? There was still no proof as to who precisely was perpetrating these attacks. Here's a question who would you have charged with the burning of Jake's house, Roarks kidnap and the assault on the secretaries husband? Some guy off the street because he has a red neck and a union flag painted on the side of his truck? Yes a real sense of justice you have!
You bloody well knew we weren't, now you're just being obtuse.Go back and look at the series of posts you idiot! How am I being obtuse? Do you actually know what the word means? Was I was "obtuse" in complimenting you earlier on making a pertinent point about the verdict. LOL! I'd love you to quote where I've been "obtuse".
...as per your thread...Now it's my thread?
Another great quality post by you, Spooky Rat. This movie by Shumacher is waaaaaay too RI-DI-CU-LO-US to be belieavable. Nothing makes sense.
I don't wanna judge, but... almost killing an innoscent person (crippling him for life) doesn't seem OK in the least to me.
Also, what people on this board don't discuss is the fact that Sam Jackson DID NOT know for sure (not 100%) these "boys" were the ones, who did it. It wasn't proved yet.
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Those 2 scums he killed can't be considered as human beings! They are lower than a pile of dog s***. He did society a favor!
shareYou had me until you claim that rape doesn't justify killing people on your own. They brutally gang raped a child to the point where they damaged her internally so she could no longer conceive children. Then they hung her from a tree. Then they dropped her off a cliff. And oh yeah, they peed on her too. I'm sorry, but what about this seems that their deaths aren't justified? I wouldn't want tax dollars going to keep this trash alive and men get away with rape every day. If it were my daughter I'd have done the same thing, only I'd have been smart enough to not do it in public.
Yes, we should not take the law into our own hands. However, what are we to do as a society when the law favors the color of your skin versus a violent act. If those guys got away with it do you think they'd have learned a lesson to not do this again? Hell no. Most rapists and child molestors are repeat offenders. Why? Because the law doesn't care.
If the guy was white, you wouldn't even think nothing of it.
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Well he should have been sent to the mental Institution right?
shareWell he should have been sent to the mental Institution right?
I'm assuming you don't have any children.
sharebut wouldn't he get a compensation for the time he was in jail we was after all. free of all charges.
shareNot only did he kill two people but he killed two people in handcuffs on their way to their trial, and yeah too bad for that cop who didn't even do anything to him who had to lose his leg. Seriously this entire movie tells us that you are allowed to gun down people in cold blood if they piss you off enough. Hailey knew what he was doing, this whole "not guilty because of insanity" defense nonsense is total bullsh!t and in reality at the very best he'd be sent away to an institution.
Bottom line we just can't have people showing up at the courthouse with automatic weapons killing people just because they have a suspicion that they are going to get a light sentence.
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Well he should have been sent to the mental Institution right?