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Jack Black's death scene was pretty mean-spirited


I know this is a Tim Burton movie, but this death scene is just so messed up. JB is killed in spot, where not any camera, but EVERY gotdang camera just so happens to be facing, so he gets killed on live TV. And when his parents are at home watching, they try to change the channel, but it's a simulcast, so every channel is showing their baby boy being killed on live TV, and they're all like, "Nah, that didn't happen! Change the channel!"

I love this movie, but that was just messed up.

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Gotdang.

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I saw (some of) this movie on a VHS when I was a really young kid, and that scene literally made me burst into tears. I found it really, really upsetting.

I'm still trying to figure out how cruel that scene really was. I watch a lot of horror movies these days, and I can't think of anything that strikes me as more cruel in Hostel, Funny Games, etc., but I probably can't look at it objectively either.

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maybe i was a mean kid, but i always loved that scene i thought it was great he got what was coming to him, he was an idiot running at them like that and his whole family except the donut kid were awful.

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Its Jack Black being vaporized and thus its hilarious!

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I laughed my ass off at that scene but yeah I can see why it would upsetting at a young age. Burton's always had something unsettling in his movies, remember in Batman Returns where the Penguin's parents just dump his carriage in the water.

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I find the deaths here really funny because everyone who really, really deserves it gets what coming for them.

Oh, by the way... have to edit that a little bit: the president doesn't quite deserve it, but on the other hand, that scene is just hillarious, and also funny because Jack Nicholson is killed of twice.

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That is the best scene because JB sucks ass. Too bad he was not killed for real.


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Well, it's also to show kind of how messed up his parents are. They think that Blacks' character is the perfect son, while Haas' character is more like the family 'runt,' just eeking out an existence working in a donut shop.

Plus, the family seems to think that Black's character is doing something big and grand...but what is he really doing? Just minor detail work like setting up roadblocks.

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I can't stand Jack Black...AT ALL...so I loved it. :)

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Meh, compared to most other things in Mars Attacks!, I was never really disturbed by Billy's death scene. He was presented as a douche from the get-go, and so were his parents, so if we were meant to feel any sympathy for him, I'd say that was a failure on the behalf of the filmmakers. I guess at best you could say the intent of the scene is somewhat confused, since it seems to be aiming for comedy, but there isn't really anything funny about it. Maybe that's why you found it troubling? Since it doesn't seem to be hitting any particular mark, so all you're left with is the rather perfunctory (and graphic) elimination of a character.

Personally, I found the death of the president much more mean-spirited. By the time President Dale gets it, he's already lost his wife, his dog, his buddy from France, and all of his closest aides, generals and confidants, so all he's really got left is himself and Taffy, who by this point in the film has become something of an afterthought. He is, by all means, alone, and he's trying one last-ditch effort to save the world from the menace of the Martians, and between Nicholson's performance and Elfman's score, you can't help but feel your heartstrings be plucked just a bit by this scene. So when the Martians double-cross him for the sake of pure menace and very literally stab him in the back...to his face...so to speak...it certainly feels mean-spirited. In fact, Mars Attacks! in general has something of a mean streak to it that doesn't really come across quite so viscerally in any of Burton's other films. I guess there are trace amounts of menace in Beetlejuice and the Batmans and so on, but nowhere so profoundly as in Mars Attacks! Great movie, all in all, but yeah, it does feel a bit mean.

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Well I think they weren't trying to bring any sympathy into the Jack Blacks death, it wouldn't fit the movie at all plus its totally build up as a lol moment. In my opinion you just gotta love these aliens for how mean spirited they are, the Humans are the unlikeable people in this movie. Also about the young age and watching this movie i saw this movie first when i was, somewhere between 3-5 and i loved it. I can't understand the reasoning behind hating it at all, its not as bad as the typical spoof its very connected to what its spoofing its *beep* insane but at the same time the plot isn't a total afterthought, the characters are not likeable but hateable, which can be kind of fun too, i wouldn't say the movie's characters are bland at all they aren't relateable but they aren't supposed to be. I wouldn't like comparing this to Burtons other work as well its really a different kind of movie and you can't hate it for that or compare it to Burtons other movies, its the perfect Comedy for mindless fun without a drastic downgrade in quality or originality. ;)

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Great post. I totally agree.

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It's a movie get over it.

It's supposed to be mean spirited because the parents are *beep* That's the point.

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Uh...that's vaPOOrized!

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It is natural selection, gung ho American rednecks being vaporised.

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I thought it was funny how his gun failed on him

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@Royalcourtier:
You didn't vaporize me yet, weird alien scum.

Why not, what's the problem, having too much trouble doing exactly that, you incompetent nincompoop...?

I'd choke you with your own tiara--we both know that, don't we, princess ugly xenomorph.

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just remember if your country goes to crap you will be begging for americans to save you

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I always thought it was funny too. I liked Jack Black as a kid and thought he was a funny comedian growing up, so I saw his death as funny. The line "Die you alien $hitheads!" immediately followed by "uh...I surrender?" with him getting blasted on live TV was one of my favorite moments as a kid.

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In context, It's hilarious. He and his parents were the epitome of the jingoistic gung ho hick country bumpkin nitwit. And he gets fried by funny looking martians...the parents changing the channel and seeing his ridiculous death is meant to be just that...ridiculous. And there is an inside joke as to them changing the channel instead of just turning the damn thing off. We are so programmed just to change the channel when we see something we don't like.


If this were a serious war movie, and parents were subject to the 'simulcast' death of a son during a battle...yeah, that would be pretty messed up.

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The Martians probably realized "Hey wait! This is Jack Black! We must vaporize him immediatly!"

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Just saw it again and it didn't bother me. Didn't bother me the first time, either. I knew from the start he was a goner. He was like the nameless guys on Star Trek eps.

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You want to see a really messed up Jack Black death? Watch "The Jackal" with Bruce Willis and Richard Gere.

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https://youtu.be/4trDzqKKFD4 <---spoiler alert!

By the way, Jack Black has never bothered me--I've always liked Jack Black just fine hehehehehe

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He died like a coward too. It didn't take long for him to surrender.

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I loved seeing him die in this and I love seeing him die in The Jackal.
Yeah I don't like him.

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As a kid, I thought it was funny, mostly the way the dad starts changing the channel yelling, "It didn't happen."

I'd say Hostel and the like were far, far worse.

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It was an attempt to develop the story device of Richie's (Lukas Haas) eventual takeover as the better of the two sons.

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