Katherine - awful woman
What a slut. I felt no sympathy for her. The crushed look on her husband's face the moment he realised she was cheating on him was awful.
shareWhat a slut. I felt no sympathy for her. The crushed look on her husband's face the moment he realised she was cheating on him was awful.
shareJust re watched this film a few seconds ago.
And I don't hate her, I felt terrible for her because she loved both men in a different way , she was truly feeling guilty for that affair but she just couldn't leave or stop loving that man.
And I don't blame her, Almasy was so intense and so hot.
Very well said! Did the OP try to see her predicament with at least a hint of understanding for her point of view, or even humanity at all? Yes, she is flawed. But, you understand, by the middle of the film just how difficult her situation was. And, the gods punished her in the end anyway, like in a Greek tragedy! I felt for her, largely due to Kristin Scott Thomas's brilliant performance.
shareI agree with you at the end Katherine Suffered the consequences of her affair and yes Kristin Scott Thomas is what makes you really understand this woman.
And yes it was difficult for her what she was doing, actually she tried to leave Almasi and she was the one who ended the affair but by that time it was too late and Geoffrey knew about her relationship with Almasi
Also, the way their relationship was described is he won her on a rebound, and that she married him without deep passion beyond friendship.
Anyone who sees her superficially as a slut hasn't lived long enough to understand the breadth of each individual. She was denied passionate love by marrying her husband. When such a person falls in passionate love, s/he is so starved for it s/he can't deny it out of some other person's moral notion of "duty". She felt, it was clear, trapped in a way by her husband in marrying him, as a best of no options. She loved him, as she states several times happily, but without spark.
~Native Angeleno
Anyone can end up loving someone else in a relationship, that's understandable. But having an affair? No... You can love two people at once, but you can't just keep juggling in between them, you have to choose one. So yes, she was an awful human being and I didn't have any symphaty for her either.
share[deleted]
i actually saw Almasi try to resist his compulsion to have her in the early stages by trying to tell her husband not to leave her alone, etc. But, And mind you, I'm speaking of the early stages of just making acquaintances, I thought Katherine was purposely very provocative - in the story she chose to recite, in her approaching Amasi in an "innocent" and casual way that she knew was not innocent considering his obvious fascination with her. In my opinion she courted disaster. She was looking for a casual fling (as was Amasi) but it unexpectedly became more for both of them.
I don't like that she took her marriage so lightly. The way it was portrayed in the movie - as if she married her husband but was not romantically in love with him, made me conclude if she had not fallen in love with Amasi, the behavior of illicit affairs with random strangers would be the norm for her (and Amasi was probably not her first one).
Katherine Flirted first definitely and Alamasi was at the beginning playing hot and Cold like he was indecisive of giving in or trying to do his best to avoid the affair.
I think from the beginning Katherine wanted more than just a fling, since in the bathtub scene she gets angry when Almasi tells her he hates ownership and they should forget about each other after she leaves so I felt like Katherine wanted more than just a fling or maybe she first got emotionally involved.
And I think from the beginning Katherine wanted more than just a fling since in the bathtub scene she gets angry when Almasi tells he hates ownership and that they should forget about each other after she leaves so I felt like Katherine wanted more than just a fling or maybe she first got emotionally involve.
It's not my strength but I'll try to do it better
shareGosh dang!Don't be vitriolic. There are run-on sentences for sure but no one likes to be called on it in such a public manner.
shareThat's your idea of vitriolic?
share[deleted]
Glad some here understood my post.
And besides English is not my first language. I can read it perfectly and understand it but when it comes to writing I still have some mistakes.
But again I'm glad you and JMistrice understood my post.
[deleted]
Thanks to you for coming in my defense that's so nice of you.
Yes I also don't get the obsession of perfect writing. If it's not understandable what I write it's fine to make the correction and that's what I thought happened when the poster claimed about my grammar but now that you and jmicitrice said that it was descent it's when I thought here comes another gramma police lol
[deleted]
My "point of view" was that the post I originally replied to was poorly written. Did that really escape you?
shareWhy so critical? Are we being graded? Sometimes people just want to voice an opinion and don't have time to proof read.
shareYour superficial belief she was angling for a fling is completely inaccurate. When people are not passionately in love and would like to be, without even thinking, they exhibit body language even they are not aware of. Again, if you live long enough these subtle realizations become clearer in people in relationships. That's why so much of the story is unsaid and so much of it is inferred and intuited. They, along with the audience who can appreciate the characters, are adults. This is NOT a story about a woman who was just *beep* around. Such a presumption flies in the face of her easily-discernible personality. Maybe when you grow up...
~ Native Angeleno
[deleted]
I didn't hate her and I was sad when she died but I wasn't too broken up by it. I was more upset that her husband chose to do what he did. He loved her too much to be able to handle the infidelity. He never learned to let go. They were friends since they were three and he probably loved her for almost as long as that and probably could not imagine life without her.
I do think Katherine was a bit of a bonehead in her choices of men. It was stated that after crying on his shoulder for the Nth time over some guy he convinced her to marry him. She seemed to always fall for the type of guy who would hurt her and let her down and she went to Colin Firth's character for comfort afterwards. In the end, even though Almasy did not intentionally let her down, he still hurt her by not coming back for her and letting her die alone in that cave. She again was let down and hurt by some guy but this time her husband wasn't around to comfort her.
Yeah she was maybe a somewhat spoiled english aristocratic woman - but one cannot compair sufferings. Remember this sentence "all happy families are alike but all unhappy families are unhappy in their own particular way"? She did what she did out of love and unfortunately in a war surrounding, she seemed a bit passive compared to the men around her who had "serious jobs" instead of just being a "rich white wife" who visits foreign countries and *beep* hot strange hungarian royals who have enigmatic eyes and are good storytellers. Maybe in a "zombie" version of the book, catherine would not die, but climb in front to Geoffrey, slap him in the face, land the plane safely, rescue almassy, bring both back to hq, make em some sandwiches and sweet date-tee, organize a restistance, kill evil germans, sew on carravaggios thumbs ("and never admitting to it") get divorced from Geoffrey, break up with almassy and befriend hana, go with her to Quebec and write a sequel to Pipi Longstocking. Dying in bed surrounded by her kids when she is 97 years old. Is that better? I ll email Oondatje later ;)
shareSlut: a woman with the morals of a man. (Urban Dictionary)
One must disagree with you. Katharine is by no means a slut. She and Almasy had perhaps three encounters in the film. It's been 20 years since I read the novel so I can't remember how long their love affair lasted before Katherine broke it off but it was not long. She had no one e else outside her marriage but Lazlo, Count de Almasy.
Katharine fell in love with Count Almasy. She told him she loved him when he was carrying her from the airplane wreckage into the Cave of the Swimmers. This was a grand passion. Whatever her sins, she died alone in a cave without comfort on a stone floor. Cause of death: dehydration. Surely she has paid for her sins.
Bored now.
I agree. Katherine did accept her fate as her letter to Almasay (sp?) was free of any blame, or excuses, as she knew her life was finished.
She loved him and he her, as tragic as it ended. She appreciated the life she lived and still loved TEP with no regrets.