Mistreated his son


I feel that the movie did not age well. On recent viewing, he did not seem to be such a great teacher after all- he just went from hating teaching to finally trying to teach well. And he mistreated his son so BADLY for much of the son's childhood that it is inexcusable and bordering on neglect and psychological abuse. Just because he decided very late to sing him a song in public- Oh, look what a good father I am- does not make up for the private abuse and mean behavior towards his son. It was unbearable to me to see him ignore and belittle his son for much of his childhood.

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My opinion of this movie has changed somewhat from when it first came out to now. It is still good, but the one thing that keeps me from rating it excellent is Mr. Holland's treatment of his son Cole, who is deaf. Holland loved his son no doubt, but his frustration toward him much of the time made it seemed that their relationship was strained at best. He could have spent more time learning how to not only sign to him, but how to teach him the love of music. Granted this came about later on in the film, but it was not without a great deal of conflict and argument. Holland and the doctor I felt had the biggest attitudinal barriers toward Cole of anyone in the film, and tended to go with the "status quo" at the time of what they felt a person like Cole was capable and not capable of doing. At best, Holland did the bare minimum while wife Iris did most of the work teaching their son how to communicate, I cannot disagree how Cole and Iris felt Holland cared more about teaching his typical students than he did about his own son. Actions speak louder than words, and his behavior showed that even if it was not his intention. Nonetheless, Holland became a good teacher over time and a somewhat better father. I would still give the film a rating in the B range, but I like to be nice!

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I agree with you that he mistreated his son and was not the best teacher initially. What I appreciate about this film is that Mr. Holland is flawed. That flaw seriously effects his relationship with his son and his attitude toward teaching. He grew as a character over the coarse of the movie and became involved and engaged with his students and he struggled with his son, eventually accepting him. His relationship with his son was very very sad. It may not be realistic that his son survived that neglect, but the mother may have made up for much of the father's absence.

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I don't really think he mistreated Cole at all -- certainly not by the standards of his time.

He searched out the top experts and followed their advice. The first doctor, as Iris noted, acted as if deaf people were retarded.

He worked extra-hard to make money to send Cole to specialized schools. He put in the work to learn how to sign; he was not perfect at it but he did OK.

The arguments in the 1980 sequences I see as really not much more than normal father-son friction in the early teen years. There was some fault on both sides; Glenn did spend a lot of time on his teaching duties but by that time Cole should have figured out that was what his dad did for a living and figured it out.

By the 1990s sequence they had a much better adult father-son relationship -- they could call each other 'a55h0ie' and know they were just kidding. And Cole did, in fact, go into teaching.



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I understand your POV.

Anyway, he was a bad father. He was a bad husband. He found among his students people that "bound" to him more than his family. Only later he started to provide more attention to them and manage to bring them back.

That's the message I see, his professional frustration affected his family life.

But I agree, he's the father and the responsible for their relationship.

Also, he missed his born. When he got to the hospital he was already out in his mother's arms.

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And in that era father's were not allowed in the delivery room anyways. Hospitals started permitting it only in the 70s.

So calling him a bad father bc of the hospital policy of that is absurd. He'd have to wait in the waiting room w every other dad to be.

Watch mad men specifically "the fog" to see what childbirth was like in the 1960's--women were heavily sedated separated from the husbands...etc. .

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It was set half a century and more ago. Parents didn't coddle, shelter, and continuously "good job!" their children the way they do now. I was a kid in the late '50s and '60s, and it could sometimes be tough, but there was also a lot of freedom and you ended up tougher and more independent as a result. No regrets.

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