I have been re-watching the one seen toward the begining where Nick Cage pulls the drunk guy out of the truck and throws him over his head into the other truck. I can not see how that stunt guy was not really injured. I see his head hit the ground and his neck bend in such a way that it could not be faked. I've run it in slow motion forward and back and can not see any way for him to have braced himself. What do YOU think?
shareit was obviously a dummy, and then they cut the scene after the dummy hit the floor and put the actor there.
Was that too harD?
No actually it's just one shot, no cuts. From the throw out of the truck to when he turns over on his back.
shareYeah i just watched it this morning, and it was something I was wondering as well. It seems all one continuous shot. And that guy hit HARD! It really looked like his wound was different too: When he's on the ground it looks in the middle of his forehead, and later in the cab more to the side...
I dunno: Ill watch again when i get home and dissect.
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LOL. I love that scene. I've often wondered about how they pulled that off. It looks like Nic Cage really tosses that guy. Then he kicks him for good measure. He was stinkin' drunk, so I guess he deserved it.
shareIt looks to me like he just tossed that guy and he probably broke his arm. I would love to know the real story. It was NOT a dummy.
shareYeah, the guy that gets thrown from the truck is the stuntman who really does crack the top of his head on the ground. The actor in the follow up scene that they put back in the truck has the fake wound/blood on the side of his head near his temple.
shareYou're a moron. If you've even watched the movie you'd obviously know it was a single, continuous, close up scene with no cuts, edits, or "dummies". OBVIOUSLY it was a stunt man, and obviously he was hurt.
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I was just watching the movie which I've seen a few times before, when I just noticed the same thing. I was kind of shocked by how violently he hit the ground and the truck, head first, and noticed that the top of his head was bleeding pretty bad where he hit the ground (and it clearly wasn't bleeding as he was pulled from the truck and thrown). I replayed the scene several times in slow motion (which is continuous and uncut until after Cage kicks him twice) and I'm convinced that guy was pretty seriously hurt. That's what prompted me to log on to IMDB to look for any trivia about the stuntman getting injured. I didn't find anything so I looked at the message board and right away found this thread, so clearly I wasn't the only one that saw that.
On one hand I give credit to Cage for continuing the scene when he had to have known that the guy was really hurt, and on the other hand I'm kind of apalled that he continued on and kicked the guy a couple times, knowing he had to have been injured. No doubt the guy was wearing padding under his clothes for the scene, so the kicks would have been the least of his worries, but I just found it kind of distasteful that the scene wasn't immediately cut so he could be checked out.
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If you watch in slo-mo you can see that his hands hit the ground first then his head. Stuntmen are trained to do these things to make the scenes look believeable and Im sure stuntmen receive all kinds of injuries and figure its just the nature of the business sometimes.
This part was brutal and it did look like the stuntman smacked his head on the pavement which he probably did but just continued filming the scene.
yea it's a pretty crazy scene, i came on here to discuss it and everyone else is seeing what i'm seeing. Damn, Nic Cage is kinda strong, or was kinda strong, but that poor stunt guy? damn.
Oh and watching it over again, i see when the stunt guy hits and is turned over by JUNIOR, his head is all bashed up and red and bloody. But when Caruso puts him in the truck his head isn't that bad. So i'm assuming that the stunt guy got hurt pretty bad with the original toss, and when they put the actor in there, they didn't match the severity of hit to the head.
Wht about dat job i did for ju in Freedom Town Da Rebenga hit, wht was dat a game of dominoes,mang?
Me and a couple of friends watched this for the first time the other day and i instantly LMAO. We knew the scene wasn't supposed to go like that. I watched the other actors in the scene and guaged their reactions. It's priceless. Then Nick Cage has the audacity to kick him TWICE. Best scene in the entire movie.
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Haha, nice nerds-come-together-on-the-interwebs thread this! I was wondering the same thing when watching it tonight. Awesome scene this! Browniepoints for the stuntman (or even more if it was the real actor) involved.
When Cage throws him out of the truck I kept expecting a jumpcut to the actor lying on the ground before it would become obvious the "dummy" wasn't moving, but it didn't come and then you see him moving... Ouch. Straight up Hong Kong stuntwork going on over there.
Gritty little detail for a gritty little movie. :-)
No way is Nicolas Cage THAT strong where he can throw 160 pounds of dead weight from a truck cab positioned over his head 10 feet into that other truck. Thats the stuff of professional wrestlers. Nicolas Cage wasn't even that built in this movie. Obviously a dummy was used. This is why the guys back is turned to the camera when he hits.
shareI'll have to see this. There is a similar stunt man injury/maybe death in Lethal Weapon 4. It's on the dvd bonus side called b-roll footage. The scene where the car drives through the large glass window from the office building. In the movie there are 2 window cleaners who get outta the way just before the car flies through. But in the raw footage, another take, one of the cleaners gets clipped in the head by the front bumper of the car and he dangles from his rope as he was playing a window washer on a scaffolding. I slow mode it many times, he was motionless. They must not have not realized this was on the extra features as it was just a continues roll of raw video.
Check it out if you can?
saw this flic again last nite and here i am wondering the same thing
i would love to get the actual deets on how they shot that scene.
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I watched it in slow motion. Nic threw the stuntman like a pillow and you could see the stuntman slow his fall with his arms. It looks like the stuntman's lower back and butt hit the parked truck's wheel lug nuts very hard. It probably hurt very bad but it didn't look as if his head struck anything.
I don't see why Cage shouldn't have carried on with the scene as scripted especially considering how much pain the stuntman invested in it.
I remember going to see this with my ex-girlfriend at the theater. We arrived just as this scene was playing. When the dude hit the ground, it actually made me cringe a little, and reminded me of an old episode of the Three Stooges: Moe was standing on a table painting a wall, while Larry and Curly were sawing the table (unbeknownst to them) in half. The table breaks and Moe falls. Before he hits the floor, he actually lands on one of the broken half of the table...HARD! When he stands up, you can see the look of pain on his face, right before he administers his patented "Moe Howard Double Slap" to Larry and Curly. Like the Kiss Of Death scene, it was all done in one take. It was one of the few times that I watched the Stooges and thought, "Holy crap, that must've REALLY hurt!" Kudos to the stunt-man in KOD.
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