Is it about time we blame the victims ?
The killers life matters. We need to shift focus and embrace the killers. Especially black killers.
shareThe killers life matters. We need to shift focus and embrace the killers. Especially black killers.
shareNah, that will highly interfere, for one, with one very popular belief a lot of us (did you Americans also go through this) were ingrained since childbirth about good and evil and how good must always win and evil be punished, besides, don't we feel repulsed and shocked by evil?
But obviously not just for that main reason.
Besides, if "we" stoop to that level, don't we become BAD people? That's not something most of us normal folks want on our conscience, right? Or does good and evil (and I don't mean in religious terms) not exist?
But also, realistically, what if we actually cared in a way about both, but say, more for victims than perpetrators?
shareAlso, you say "we", meaning, presumably, all human beings. But thing is, and that is also a fact of life in and of itself, all humans are different. And yes there are many moral humans out there who do care about morals and laws and who are in fact nice and principled and it goes against their conscience or their own mentality or both as well to just shift their thoughts like that and not give it a second thought. Please bear THAT in mind as well.
shareyes if you are liberal you care more about killer than victim. "he had hard life" is what you hear them say!
shareAre liberals in this sense and otherwise necessarily wrong or shall we leave them entitled to their opinions, even if we disagree?
Also, what about some folks guilty of heinous crimes who did NOT have a hard life whatsoever, how do liberals feel here? And what do liberals also think - get this - of good and evil including good versus evil in humanity, do they dislike action movies where good defeats evil or is it just - they are, in their own mind or otherwise, a little TOO aware of life being different to movies and that, well, according to them, its not that simple?
Plus what if you are neither liberal nor conservative (what if some people DON'T KNOW anything about all those movements etc) but just think in simple right and wrong terms, what then, and how would they feel about the matter as portrayed here?
"Also, what about some folks guilty of heinous crimes who did NOT have a hard life whatsoever, how do liberals feel here?"
yes that is good point.
liberal mindset is walking contradiction. like this film made by super liberal tim robins. this film spend entire time with murderer on death row as if we feel sorry for this men. then they show what he did - rape and murder of two young people! i do not want to see whole film of this man. have your daughter rape and murder and watch film that sympathize with murderer. murderer have choice not to kill, victim have no choice.
"murderer have choice not to kill, victim have no choice."
Obvious truism of course but I nonetheless don't disagree. Most perpetrators leave victims of course no real options of survival either.
Also, if liberals really are so bad or are they, should we all just ignore them or force them to change? Basically, are liberals WRONG to think what they think?
And you know those other factors I mention, what do we think of that, including how most of us are born with the idea of good versus evil and good defeating evil and happy endings?
Oh and how come in any serious discussion, people practically never address those points? Thanks.
"Also, if liberals really are so bad or are they, should we all just ignore them or force them to change? Basically, are liberals WRONG to think what they think?"
far left liberals need to start thinking with head and not heart. everything to them is emotion.
they are soft on crime because they see criminal as victim. in american they reform bail and have criminal back on streets anger arrest.
"far left liberals need to start thinking with head and not heart. everything to them is emotion.
they are soft on crime because they see criminal as victim."
I've known quite a few people who are soft in their personalities and they never alone like that saw criminals as "victims" and full stop, such "logic" also seemed highly foolish to them etc.
And what about people who (rightly mind you!) DON'T share such viewpoints and don't see criminals as that, what have they got that those others don't?
Also, before, I never really knew or even suspect, and here I find out it is a COMMON ISSUE, that there are people out there who are officially soft like that on criminals and mostly for their own reasons, even if they have a heart, but for a guilty violent criminal like say a murderer? And no one EVER tried to have a word with them about it or it just didn't work?
By the way, I can't help but wonder...
Do those far left liberals as such also have a problem with action movies where often good guys defeat bad guys and many see it as a happy endings with the villains getting their just desserts? I know its fiction but do they feel empathy for poor bad guys who they think don't deserve to be killed like that even in self defence? Just curious.
And it also doesn't shock or SURPRISE you personally? Or are you used to it? (Despite being exposed, maybe occasionally, and under slightly embarrassing circumstances, to the other side - people who speak openly and angrily against such criminals too much.)
"Yeah, its like that and it happens" - OK probably, its the bitter truth.
lmao!
share2 OP - I wonder how many action and fairy-tale movies you have seen where good defeats evil and evil is demonized and stigmatized and more to the point - how much or how little did you agree with them and feel at least similar approach should be in real life?
And if you did see them and they also painted your world view, can you really look into your heart and conscience as well as mind and intestines and state that we should simply one-sidedly sympathize with murderers and other evil people in general, and even make a downright RACIST statement about perpetrators' skin colour like that and walk away without nary a second thought and have peaceful sleep at night?
I couldn't. Except... Yeah, it is much more than just because I took what I was taught via those mediums in a way for granted.
What I find mildly hilarious and oddly interesting is that, in this day and age, I almost NEVER see people even ONCE post about "good versus evil" mentality like that, not even out of curiosity, no, its like - let's all mention various movements, hashtags, oh and we're not even gonna say "bad" men or EVIL men who do certain things, its just men, and I'm not even any kind of Men's Rights Activists (I don't even KNOW much about their existence to be honest) etc etc etc.
I wonder what caused modern day people for the most part to forget those approaches and whatnot?
I, for one, in THIS day and age, have WAY too much conscience for one to even CONSIDER that perspective, so for me, HELL NO. :)
shareTake George Floyd he was a great man who ended up killed by white!
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