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When Longshanks kills his son's lover


One of my favorite scenes.

Brutal.

And it feels like an authentic occurence.

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I die laughing when that twerp is tossed out a castle window like he's nothing more than a chamberpot full of excrement.

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Very brutal, like the rest of the movie. I enjoy the guards reaction below. They're looking down at the body, confused. Then they look up, see the king, and immediately get back to work like nothing happened.

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I love that scene. I can't help but laugh at how it all unfolds. "Who is the person speaking to the king as if I needed his advice?" Longshanks stole every scene he was in.

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The scene is just another classic of many in Braveheart.

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The first time I saw that scene, I was shocked. Now I enjoy watching it over and over, especially when the guy says "stand up to him" before the king walks into the room. The guy is just a player, and right away the king recognizes him for what he is, and reacts accordingly.

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I agree. I see the scene differently now too. Philip was really just an opportunist taking advantage of the Prince, and not somebody qualified to be an official or royal council. He might have made a decent retainer, accountant, or something more limited in requisite skill.

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None of which would justify or even make it sensible to throw him out of a window. Sorry, but it's blatantly obvious that the real reason the character gets thrown out of the window is for being a mincing nancy-boy. If anyone enjoys that, fine, but don't try to kid yourselves or anyone else that it isn't simple gay-bashing.

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no not gay bashing...but that was the cherry on top though LOL

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Not only is it a great scene, but it led me to learn that this was such a common occurrence back then that it gained its own name for the practice... "defenestration". LOL

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Somebody told you a pile of (beep) then: because the word defenestration] wasn't coined till 1608 - nearly 300 years later, which isn't remotely 'back then' in response to an event in Prague, Bohemia.

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I wanted to ask the previous poster, if he is Czech:) about the "defenestration" :)
Maybe Mel has heard of this and incorporated it?

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OMG You got me. Even though 1608 is closer to those years than 2015, holy shniz how could I be that far off?

Thank you so much for correcting me, and proving that defenestration wasn't a definition for throwing someone out of a castle window.

Much appreciated.

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How dare you thisnameinuse, how dare you?

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I'm surprised to see that I'm not the only one who thinks this scene is one of the best in the movie.

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Yes.. great scene and that young guy should have known when to shut up!!!

You never give a King advise unless he asks.

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How fruity do you have to be to get man-handled by an elderly man and thrown out of a window like that? LOL

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So much for being “skilled in the arts of war and military tactics”. :)

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