How we know Andy is innocent?


They never say whether he is innocent or guilty. There might be a murderer on the loose.

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The movie is fiction so that we know, he didn't kill anyone.

However within the fictional construct there are more things telling us that he probably isn't guilty than there are things telling us he might be. So the most likely conclusion is that he is intended to be innocent. Besides the story would not have the same impact at all if we knew or thought Andy is guilty.

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Did you really just point out that what happens in movies is just fiction and not reality?

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How do we not know? There was a full confession by the young guy's former cell-mate.

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Hmmm, but it could be made up ... like the governor said?? x

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There are more things telling us that he probably isn't guilty than there are things telling us he might be. So the most likely conclusion is that he is intended to be innocent.

Red

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true, but it's interesting to ponder the possibilities!

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But they show it to us. It's not just words said by a character to the others. They bothered to show us his confession. If we go by Your reasoning then why should we believe he did it in the first place. It could just be made up.


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How do we not know? There was a full confession by the young guy's former cell-mate.


What we heard was Tommy's version of what Blatch said, and that's assuming that Tommy didn't make up or in some way augment the story he heard to help Andy. Blatch could have easily read about the double murder and simply BS'd his way into the fabric of the story, or even came to believe it after sometime (he didn't seem to be very bright).

And the prosecutor's charge was never explained. Why would Blatch (or anyone else simply robbing the golf pro) empty a revolver, then reload and put a single shot in each of the victim's heads? Does indeed seem personal.

Anyway, I tend to think Andy was innocent but it's not a big thing for me either way. Andy served 20 years whether he did it or not. Had he escaped after a couple of years I would be more inclined to care whether he did the crime.



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What we heard was Tommy's version of what Blatch said, and that's assuming that Tommy didn't make up or in some way augment the story he heard to help Andy.


The movie doesn't do anything to indicate he's lying. In fact, the movie goes out of its way to show us Blatch's conversation.

Why would Blatch (or anyone else simply robbing the golf pro) empty a revolver, then reload and put a single shot in each of the victim's heads? Does indeed seem personal.


It was personal to Blatch. Remember how much he didn't like people who gave him $h1t.

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On the back of my official blu-ray copy, it says Andy is wrongfully convicted of murder. I'm not sure how much 'artistic license' movie blurb-writers have, but I'd consider that as a safe bet.

Elmo Blatch confessed. Yes he could've made it up as he apparently did a lot of stuff, but 'I shot a golf pro and his mistress and they blamed it on her hot-shot banker husband'. Quite a coincidence don't you think?

Anyone saying Andy did it = fanfiction. Nothing wrong with that but it's not the story.


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Anyone saying Andy did it = fanfiction. Nothing wrong with that but it's not the story.


Agreed. I put it up there with people saying Red just imagined his reunion with Andy at the end.

In order to believe either of those things, people have to ignore character, tone, theme, and other chunks of the movie.

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Red imagining Andy at the end is plausible considering that in the novella Red and Andy never reunite. It ends with Red on the bus to Fort Hancock, Texas.
In the Book though it too states that Andy is innocent and that Elmo Blatch is the killer. People pretending to think that Andy is guilty are just being….obtuse, i wonder if it’s deliberate.

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Totally guilty.

He claims he was sobering up, yet we see him in the car necking a bottle of whiskey.

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That's an interesting point but we have no idea how long Andy stood outside the house gun in hand. It's not impossible that after an hour or two he did actually start to come to his senses and leave so your evidence is circumstantial.

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Because of the statement of Tommy's roommate.

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The movie doesn't say outright whether Andy is guilty or innocent. But the preponderant feeling is that Andy is innocent.

Nothing in his personality suggests that he was the sort of guy who would kill people. Andy read books, taught the other inmates, looked after his friends. His personality was kind and gentle. To the extent that he committed some crimes in the film (e.g. - fraud), those crimes were white-collar; and the victims of those crimes were the warden and correctional staff, who deserved punishment.

Even if Andy had killed his wife and her beau, the movie suggests that Andy was a guy without even conscience to own up to the crime, not deny the crime consistently for 20+ years.

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