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I don't like that he killed (SPOILER)

posted 18 years ago by hollankreil
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A guy (Claymore, Tim Curry's character) who had clearly just gone insane via presenting him with a fake door(which turns out to be a window to his doom). Just came across as cruel, but that's just me.

[–] shadow-otr 18 years ago

I can understand not liking that Claymore was killed, but Claymore had already freely allied himself with Shiwan Khan - and did a good bit of work putting together the atomic bomb Khan was going to use on NYC.

Certainly Claymore had 'lost it' towards the end there when The Shadow confronted him - but all his actions prior {such as attempting to drown The Shadow} were villainy of his own accord so an 'insanity defense' doesn't apply.

[–] mario_023 14 years ago

Well he did trap The Shadow in that one room and try to drown him so that's what he gets

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[–] matt-greer-1 18 years ago

The shadow never killed, Claymore.. he jumped about two stories and on glass,, and he deserved to die even if he did because he locked Shadow in the shere thing, where the water was filling up... what a jerk.. aka CLAYMORE

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[–] thenickatoms 18 years ago

If you go by the original novels, The Shadow was too nice to Claymore...

[–] InsomniacJack 18 years ago

Yeah, most pulp heros were pretty brutal.

[–] DisneyKnight4 12 years ago

What happened to Claymore in the pulps?

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[–] worstfilmever 17 years ago

Tim Curry should die in every movie....wait do I see a Tim Curry death montague coming to YouTube? Please feel free to do it cause I'm too lazy.

[–] marieveek 16 years ago

That's the thing, isn't it? While the fact that Farley was willingly working with Shiwan could be damning, at the same time, what the Shadow did to him still reminds me of Shiwan making the museum guard and (later) the sailor kill themselves.

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[–] TheSolarSailor 11 years ago

I wasn't aware that The Shadow had some sort of Batmanish thou shalt not kill villains rule.

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[–] Sci-Fi-X 16 years ago

I took it from the insanity and frothing at the mouth that Claymore was suffering from some sort of radiation poisoning, so, the Shadow just helped end his suffering.

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[–] praisedivinemercy 15 years ago

Yeah... just keep telling yourself that. ^_^

But seriously, The Shadow outright shoots some people in the pulps. Only in self defense though.

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[–] marieveek 15 years ago

Personally, I understood that yes, Farley was evil and had joined Shiwan of his own free will. But at the same time, I didn't feel much sympathy towards Cranston, and suspected that he might have figured out how Shiwan killed the museum guard. There's also the fact that we never see what happened to the three guards that Shiwan sent with Farley to try and kill him. If they were trying to portray the Shadow as ruthless avenger, it might have made sense, but they were also trying to portray him as a man trying to atone for his past crimes, and I'm not really sure if they did a good enough job balancing the two.

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[–] Pohjanakka 13 years ago

Claymore could have built another bomb, and he would have, for anybody who paid enough. So maybe he was considered too dangerous to live.

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[–] TheFatDruidofNacyl 10 years ago

I figure since he started out as a ruthless killer and is now using the darkness in his heart to defeat evil, him willing to kill someone that tried to kill him and could pose a further threat fits his character.

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