Massive spoliler on front cover... - The Hudsucker Proxy (1994) Discussion

[–] bogwart-1 15 years ago

The actual item is irrelevant, it could have been a plastic crocodile. You're missing the point, especially as that item was invented by another company under very different circumstances.

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[–] spacemouse 15 years ago

Alas it is you that misses my point.
I am talking about the viewers ahhh moment when the realise what the circle represents. Right up until the end, it's just a circle on a piece of paper "you know...for kids!". It's like a running joke throughout the film.

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[–] bogwart-1 15 years ago

Yes, it's a running joke, but it's not such a big deal, IMO. Each to his own, but I think if you asked a thousand people who'd seen the film and liked it what it was about there would be a tiny handful who'd say it was the invention of the hula hoop.

Of course I'm not missing your point; how on earth do you imagine anyone could do that unless they were 10 or something and deaf and blind to go with it?

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[–] spacemouse 15 years ago

Considering the very first line of my post read "Well, Joke Spoiler"...

And you replied:

"The actual item is irrelevant, it could have been a plastic crocodile. You're missing the point, especially as that item was invented by another company under very different circumstances."

Totally irrelevant?

I'd say that warrants enough proof that missed my point.

Your next post will be a case in point to your own post...I already know this!

fM

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[–] spacemouse 15 years ago

To reiterate (for the blind ten year olds) I was referring to the running joke. Tim Robbins character professes to have invented a revolutionary new idea "you know...for kids!"
On paper, his idea is merely a simple circle.
This scene is played out several times throughout the movie. Each time he presents his idea (as a circle on a scrap of paper) the person being presented with the invention has much the same reaction as the viewer (eh? it's just a circle!).

At the end of the movie, the simple circle comes to life and the viewer (who gets it) is rewarded with one of the Coen brothers greatest one liners ever. Millions of children up and down the land, are "doing the hula-hoop"!

You obviously missed it.
Perhaps you can now back track and justify your totally irrelevant answer? Maybe a quick edit? Perhaps you will opt for the retarded attack/insult? Either way, you did totally miss the point!

fM

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[–] bogwart-1 15 years ago

Last time. Of course I didn't miss that, you stupid SFB. What I was replying to was your crazed idea that the cover of the DVD acted as a spoliler/spolier/whatever. Who gives a toss? And bearing in mind that the film is 16 years old (probably the same as you) it's hardly the end of the world, is it?

What a strange little world you must inhabit.

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[–] jjpete7 15 years ago

Except that the hula hoop makes it's appearance in the middle of the movie, not the end. Which renders your entire thread pointless and stupid.

At the end of the movie, the Frisbee is the simple circle that comes to life and the viewer (who gets it) is rewarded with one of the Coen brothers greatest one liners ever. Millions of children up and down the land, are "tossing a frisbee"!

You obviously missed it.
Perhaps you can now back track and justify your totally irrelevant Original Post? Maybe a quick edit? Perhaps you will opt for the retarded attack/insult? Either way, you did totally miss the Plot!

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[–] Six-Shooter 13 years ago

He's saying the cover spoils the joke, not the movie, you simple dolts. And, yes, the punchline is interchangeable but that doesn't mean it wasn't spoiled. Just because The Sixth Sense COULD have ended with Bruce Willis being a robot doesn't mean that telling someone he's a ghost the whole time DOESN'T spoil the movie.

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[–] bogwart-1 15 years ago

No, your first line read: "Well perhaps "joke spolier"."

Three different spellings in one short post. Not bad.

As for the rest of this, I don't have the first idea what you're on about. You employ the most bizarre usage of the English language I have ever encountered.

I'll be happy to talk to you again once you can produce a coherent sentence.

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[–] spacemouse 15 years ago

Alas the attack, as predicted. When all is lost - find a typo! I am surprised you didn't go through my previous postings like a true retard.

“...how on earth do you imagine anyone could do that [miss the point] unless they were 10 or something and deaf and blind to go with it?”

Indeed!

You know, I just won’t enter into a battle of the wits with someone who is so clearly...unarmed and shall ignore you from now on. Despite this, you will continue to make another post in this thread which will be the ultimate case in point that you are indeed, a fully fledged retard. I am hardly surprised your wife left you (one way or another;).

Something tells me you kept missing her “point” too.

fM

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[–] spacemouse 14 years ago

Alas, the evidence appears overwhelming dear bogwart!

I was commenting upon the joke spoiler not a conventional film spoiler.

Too subtle for the likes of you, henceforth you missed the point completely.

Now kindly telephone your estranged wife and make good.

Sm

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[–] bogwart-1 14 years ago

Ignoring the fact that you vowed to ignore me, you seem to have awoken from hibernation with the same moronic nonsense that you employed initially. Go and get stuffed, you stupid little tool.

And leave my family out of it. You want to play stupid with me, I can deal with that. Bring my family into it any more and you further display what a witless little turd you really are.

One thing I really cannot stand is witless children who hide behind a keyboard.

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[–] spacemouse 14 years ago

I'd hardly call what remains at your side a "family" old boy! More like a distant memory (and not a very pleasant one at that)!

Admit it old man - you missed the point and you are an utter buffoon of the highest order.

Be seeing you:)

Wck

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[–] justin40580 14 years ago

I was thinking the same thing when I saw the cover spacemouse....I was on netflix and found the movie and I said to myself, why the hell did they put that on the cover? When I first saw the movie, back in like 96, I initially said to myself, what the hell is the big deal about a circle? When it was revealed I laughed so hard! Oh now I get it!

Interestingly enough I show the movie to my 6 yr old son, whom I was afraid wouldn't understand the jokes in the movie. He ended up falling asleep on it about 30 minutes into, kind of what I figured. But when he saw the circle, he knew straight away what it was...He said, what? A hula hoop? Amazing how kid's minds work isn't it?

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[–] JrnlofEddieDeezenStudies 15 years ago

I agree it's better without the hula hoop on the cover. It's funnier when you don't know what the heck Robbins' character is talking about--when you're in the same boat as the folks he's showing his circle to.

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[–] Progeny51 15 years ago

The fact that it's a hula hoop is revealed about 45 minutes into a 2 hour movie.

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[–] bitmaster20 15 years ago

I agree with the OP. Up until the hula hoop is actually shown in the movie, whenever the Tim Robbins character whips out the paper from his shoes and shows the circle, everyone (including the audience) is left wondering what the hell is he trying to tell us.

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[–] rjk2424 15 years ago

I agree with the OP as well. Bogwart completely missed the point of the post. It is a great running joke throughout the film, and I really feel like they should have left the joke off of the cover. It isn't a huge deal or anything, but the reveal is so much better when you don't know what is coming.

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[–] Bry-2 14 years ago

I believe "the item's" identity as the Hula Hoop was obvious in the original release posters, too. Doubt it was ever supposed to be a surprise.

I loved how the elevator boy's "invention" was nearly an identical drawing, at least in plane-view. Nice touch!

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[–] spacemouse 14 years ago

Oh how some people miss the point!

Of course I am right - the smart ones know that - the not so smart don't.

Simple as that really.

Sm

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[–] bowbowl 14 years ago

I agree with the original post. To echo the "proxy" pivot of the movie is one thing, yet it's another to spoil what was obviously crafted for the purpose of the ensuing revelance. They could have achieved the same effect by showing any other circular images or items on the front cover to suggest the importance of the role of the circle ( ex: the coffee stain around the ad in the newspaper or the halo atop that cute Hudsucker's angel) as long as it's not the one self-evident joke-spoiling item- the hula-hoop.
The circle, Tim Robbin's character's free fall, the second chance. Who would not just love the Proxy:)

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[–] eadwinn 13 years ago

I agree with the OP wholeheartedly. It was a big surprise for me (thank god I hadn't seen the cover beforehand).

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[–] thefooligan5 13 years ago

I just watched Hudsucker for the first time today. When he first showed his circle I was a little confused but the second he said, "... for kids," I immediately suspected it was a hula hoop. I don't think it was as big of a surprise as you might have thought.

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[–] MannyElias 12 years ago

Well just to add what other people have already said, the OP has a "point". And for the record, bogwart you're such a pompous moron. You tried to act like you know what the hell you were talking about when you don't. Get some reading comprehension by going back to school and maybe people might take you seriously next time.

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[–] bokibongbing 12 years ago

I agree, I do think the DVD cover contains a major spoiler. A picture of him holding a hula hoop - come on! As soon as I saw the circle drawn on the piece of paper, I knew that it would be a hula hoop, and that it would be a huge success and spoil their plan to drive down the share prices. So for most of the movie, I knew what was coming, which made it seem slower than it really is.

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