Im surprised no one else posted about this. I watched them movie today as it was on TV and near the end when this truck drives up to the Hacienda a bunch of guys with MP5's jump out and one has a scope on it larger than most sniper rifles carry! This is totally stupid, a 9mm para round does not and never would use a scope that large.
shareNight vision aka starlight scope. Period correct for the time frame of the film. You virgins should learn more about weapons before whining..
shareIt looks a lot like it was a PVS-300. Sort of a cut-down PVS-3 with better (Gen 2) tube, so the whole middle cascade is removed, and you get a shorter scope. Next is that it clearly has no elevation and windage adjustments as this era of scope used an externally adjustable base. They have instead bolted it to the STANAG claw mount for the MP5.
So aside from that minor prop inaccuracy, this is one of the less silly things in a very, very silly movie.
See, even if a guard for a narcoterrorist, you tend to work with what equipment you are issued. It's not a video game and you don't get to level up. He presumably could only get an MP5 (at best!) and somehow stumbled across the night vision scope, so finagled an attachment. Note, the iron sights still work, so while bulky and heavy, he still has a perfectly reasonable MP5 for shooting people during the day, but also has a night observation scope, whether used for shooting or just looking.
Now as to the range: I have personally shot up area targets at 200 m with bursts from 9 mm SMGs, and have accurately engaged targets with 9mm aimed shots at 300 m. The 9mm is plenty accurate, it just is slow so has a lot of drop.
Also, night sighting. The first US night vision scope was mounted to an M1 carbine. Why? Partly overall system weight and recoil, but also because you cannot see that far. Jungles, and Gen 2 scopes, you probably do not expect to see accurately enough to engage past 150 m, so an SMG is just not that much of a hindrance.
P.S. 95% of comments in this thread, and the whole board, are comically wrong. So, so wrong. OMG, just stop if you don't know how guns really work.
"See, even if a guard for a narcoterrorist, you tend to work with what equipment you are issued. It's not a video game and you don't get to level up. He presumably could only get an MP5 (at best!) and somehow stumbled across the night vision scope, so finagled an attachment. Note, the iron sights still work, so while bulky and heavy, he still has a perfectly reasonable MP5 for shooting people during the day, but also has a night observation scope, whether used for shooting or just looking."
I find myself wondering if the props guy (there's a proper term for the dude who looks after all the firearms on movie sets, but I forget it...) had this little story of yours in his head when he put the piece together, or whether the director or producer just came up and said, "Put the big telescope thingie onto the little black gun there - that'll look really cool," before wandering off again.
I really want to know this guy's story now, like maybe he was last in line when the narco guerrillas were handing out the boom sticks, so he got the "sissy gun" that fires smaller bullets than the rifles everybody else got. He could have been really pissed off about this for ages until discovering the NVS when raiding an enemy's armoury, or took it from someone he shot. Sticking it onto his MP5 would have made it, and him, way more macho and the envy of all the other bad guys, even if he had no idea about how to make it work or what it was actually for...
Am I wasting too much time thinking about this? Probably, but I can't help being curious about some of the decisions the armourers (remembered the word!) make when building the firearm pieces, especially for the extras. Like, whenever you see a gun with an Eotech sight mounted backwards, I wonder, did someone just screw up, was it a deliberate decision, made so that the guy holding it would look incompetent, or was it something purposefully slipped in so that all the pedantic know-it-alls (like myself) and the CoD kiddies can point and yell, "Aha! That's wrong!" ??
--Myk
I'm probably being sarcastic...
No idea in this case but sometimes there's extra script, or other background even for small characters. It could be that he's Jose, The Leader of the Security Team so was supposed to get a hero gun of some sort. Possible.
It's interesting how actors sometimes prepare stuff. My favorite was (I think) Benicio del Toro on Inside the Actors Studio where he talked about his wallet. As in, not his wallet, his character's wallet. He buys one, then populates it with stuff. Receipts, old train tickets, whatever the character would have. Never comes out during either of the films he talked about, totally about him creating and getting into the character.
Yeah, not every actor in every film does this but sometimes. I do love hearing more about this sort of thing.
Backwards sights is probably just a mistake. But we've seen actual people in the real world with sights on backwards, etc. Sad, but it happens.
At 1:10:24. The guy getting out of the grey Landrover. What an idiot!
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