Stu - was he a bad guy?


I'm confused about Stu.

Obviously, because he was presented as the anti-Daniel, we're expected to hate this suave, handsome, charming man from the get go.

But at the pool, when Stu talks to that man by the bar about the kids... I was expecting him to go full out and say he was only buttering Miranda up. For what reason, I dont know.. the movie doesnt make it clear what Stu would be using Miranda for.

But Stu ends up saying how wonderful the kids are.

And there were no other instances in the movie where Stu was terrible to either Miranda or the kids. So what was he - a good guy or a bad guy??

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There really isn't any bad person in the film.

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It's been a long time since I've watched this, but the only thing remotely negative I remember him doing was calling Daniel a loser, and even that I could see why. Miranda probably wasn't painting Daniel in the best light to Stu.

It was quite obvious that Stu was quite fond of Miranda and her children, and his intentions were good, whereas I remember Daniel coming off as an immature jackass (vandalizing his car, throwing a lime at his head when his back was turned), and even goes as far as to nearly kill the man, and he had absolutely no justification for that one. In some ways, Stu came off as a better guy than Daniel.

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If Stu is a bad guy then Daniel is certainly a criminal. He disturbed the peace by having that anarchiac party for his son, vandalized Stu's car, threw a piece of fruit at him behind his back (assault), and poisoned Stu's meal with pepper (attempted murder).

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One thing that pissed me off about Stu was that he called Daniel a 'loser' when he didn't even know him...Another one was when he had a five year-old on his shoulders and sitting on his lap...Mow me..being a parent...I'd beat the hell out of him & beat the hell out of the mother for allowing it.

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As to a bad guy, his presence as an anti-Daniel, I wouldn't class him as a bad guy. But in some of his actions I would. He seems to home in on Miranda very quickly. I admit that her colleague mentions that when Stu phoned him he specifically asked for her.
My guess was with the back story. My guess was that, one time before she was a Mom and before she met Daniel, she and Stu had been an item. She thought he was out of her system by still the old feeling lingered and his rather sudden arrival brought to old emotions flooding back. The reason for their break up was he had no intention of having kids or a family life. Now he's back and there is a ready made family for him to step into. At the pool he's great with the kids.
I think to class him as good or bad leaves you with a very ambiguous answer. As to myself he isn't a bad guy, but he isn't good either. His timing is rotten. Miranda did seem a little too pleased when her colleague mentioned him, maybe she was already on the lookout.
Originally, in the script the movie was to end with Daniel and Mirada getting back together but that was quickly vetoed by Robin Williams. I think the real ending they used was that ultimately, Miranda did keep seeing Stu and he became a feature in the kids life, but but he realizes that he can't deprive the kids of their real father and he mustn't try to replace that.
As to his 'loser' comment he was bang out of order. But I do agree that it was probably what he thought after hearing about Daniel from Miranda. Most fathers have certain things they feel it is there right to do (teach a son to shave. buy him is first pint, etc.) and they'd feel violated if somebody else did that. So as long as Stu took a back seat I think he and Daniel might get on they would never be friends but they could at least be in the same room as one another.
To sum up, he's not a bad guy, but not a good guy as far as his timing goes

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Stu is really more of a thick soup than a bad guy.

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a bisque?




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... perhaps...

... or maybe some other kind of food that could be described as a thick soup, and happens to sound a little like Stu.

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bouillabaisse?


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You're getting thicker -- I mean "warmer".

Think chowder. Then think thicker.

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Stew!!

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that's what she said. ๎€บ


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Stu was a cool guy but he was in the way of our hero and his happiness. The movie perfectly made us feel good when Daniel got back at Stu. But it really was all an illusion.

I think the real enemy in the whole movie was Miranda herself, since had the dumbest, most selfish reasons to destroy that family. Since Miranda is shown as a tough, confident, strong woman, we ended up projecting all of our angry toward her on Stu. He is a man. No one wants to think badly of women.

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When Stu called Daniel a loser, he had never even met Daniel. It was just something he picked up from Miranda.

The ONE time Stu and Daniel interacted (after the choking scene), they got along just fine, shaking hands and going their separate ways.

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he had a bad tan & was did a bad parking job of his car.



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Not really, I can understand why he disliked Daniel but he was good to Miranda and the kids.

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Stu was no villain at all and that thought should even be out of the question. I think his first appearance after getting in touch with Miranda through her boss seems to suggest it was going to give her the opportunity for another male companionship although not necessarily dating and marriage (which may or may not have gone either way) and he was very nice to her and her children. Daniel's unfair actions towards him might have occurred because he would afraid the children would forget about him and look to Stu as a new father whatever way Stu's relationship with Miranda went. Even through Daniel's insults as Mrs Doubtfire, despite Stu's embarrassment (and humiliation), he never loses his temper (going as far as to even helm him/her fish her false teeth out of the wine despite shaking the wetness all over him once it is out). His opinion of thinking Daniel a loser as mentioned earlier might have happened from what Miranda described to him about her ex (and evidently since Daniel knew nothing about it, he assumed that Stu made that up himself) and he didn't have any hard feelings to Daniel or demand him arrested for seasoning his jambalaya with pepper, presumably because Daniel took it upon himself to right his wrong by saving Stu from choking. It seems to be though that he is desperate for a relationship due to his flirtatiousness talk with Miranda during their design meetings so a better alternative ending could have been Daniel accepting Stu as the children's new father and thus they could spend time with both their old father and new father while Daniel and Stu could be cordial to each other with the children accepting both fathers equally (there are some cases of children while gaining a new stepparent due to a divorce are able to still maintain a good relationship with their previous parent and the stepparent and current parent are friendly towards and accepting of each other)



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