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What other show or entertainment does P+P's tone remind you of?


I've been wondering, but it's hard to put my finger on it. Can someone think of a show, movie, comic strip, book etc. that inspired the particular tone of the P&P series, or that has a similar type of humor?

A while ago I was reading the Calvin and Hobbes comic strip, and its way of presenting fairly standard children's adventures with a strange mixture of adult-like philosophical reflections, surrealism, flights of fancy, irony, sarcasm and warm nostalgia strongly reminded me of the unique style of P&P's scripts and visualizations.

Of course mentioning Calvin and Hobbes brings to mind Peanuts as well....

Anyone?

Dicky

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Freaks and Geeks
Even Stevens
Twin Peaks
John Hughes movies
Rugrats
All That

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The abc cartoon Pepper Ann reminds me somewhat of P&P. It was late 90's era, main character was a dorky redhead middle schooler with an overactive imagination, she had quirky friends/family and supporting characters, and sometimes the show had some fairly sophisticated humor. It didn't quite have the originality or surrealness of P&P but I thought it had a spirit to it that was similar at times.

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Ha, I just came across this quote by the one and only Will McRobb himself, in an Entertainment Weekly article from September 6, 1991, when the second Pete & Pete special was about to air:

Cocreator and writer Will McRobb, 30, describes Pete and Pete as "The Wonder Years meets Calvin and Hobbes meets Stand By Me"

http://www.ew.com/article/1991/09/06/adventures-pete-and-pete

Surprise, the Calvin & Hobbes association is there! I wasn't imagining things!

Dicky

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I saw that awhile back, Dicky. Thanks for posting it here.

I believe Pete & Pete was one of those shows where several things influenced it. Like you said earlier in this thread, Katherine Dieckman's R.E.M. videos ("Stand", "Shiny Happy People") clearly influenced the look and some ideas quite a bit. On top of that, Will and Chris have both stated that Michael Spiller's cinematography is the reason why many of the episodes worked and felt unique. And guess what? He worked with Hal Hartley! Nothing but coincidences here, folks!

So...

The Wonder Years (1988)
Hal Hartley (specifically Trust (1990))
Michael Alan Spiller's cinematography
Stand by Me (1986)
Katherine Dieckmann's music videos (particularly R.E.M.'s "Stand" and "Shiny Happy People")
Calvin and Hobbes comic strips


Also worth noting is that Katherine Dieckmann directed all of the shorts that preceded the specials/series (full episodes). So her presence was a huge part of why the show was special.

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Hi Wizzleteats,

Great overview, thanks again! Another one for keeps - saving offline, I mean. Of course, it was your link to the EW article that confirmed my 'Calvin & Hobbes' connection in the first place!

Dicky

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Comedy Central's Strangers With Candy, starring Amy Sedaris and featuring such actors as Stephen Colbert (in one of his very first TV roles).

Both were filmed in the New Jersey suburbs, both had the same level of basic cable production value, and both featured casts that resembled regular looking people and not glammed up super models posing as real people. Both would occasionally throw in fairly well-known celebrities in completely random cameo roles (LL Cool J, Iggy Pop, Steve Buscemi in Pete and Pete; Andy Richter, Janeane Garafalo, Will Ferrell, Wynona Ryder in SWC)

While Strangers with Candy was naturally much more twisted and edgy given it's very different target audience and adult themed humor, they both reveled in absurdities and portrayed a general sense of 90s era alt-quirkiness. Pete and Pete had Artie, the Strongest Man in the World; SWC had Jerri Blank's father Guy Blank, portrayed by a real actor but always depicted frozen in place and never actually shown moving on screen.

I'd like to think of SWC as something of a spiritual successor to P+P, aimed at people like me who watched P+P as kids and then graduated to SWC in college.

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Thanks for your interesting observation on Strangers with Candy! I'd heard of it, though I've never seen it, and I know Amy Sedaris by way of her brother David.

The series actually shared two prolific TV directors, Adam Bernstein (3 P+P episodes and the SWC initial short and series pilot) and Peter Lauer 4 P+P's and 18 episodes of SWC), and some 'alternative' guest actors: said Janeane Garofalo, Bebe Neuwirth and Heather Matarazzo. Intriguing links!

Another one to check out!

Dicky

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P&P reminds me of:
-An Australian 90s children's show called 'Round the twist'
-The movies ' 3 o'clock high' and ' better off dead '
-Parker Lewis can't lose
-Eerie Indiana
-Stand by me and the 1950s parts of 'IT' - in a different way to the above though

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Ah, thanks for reminding me!

Definitely Parker Lewis Can't Lose and Eerie Indiana for me too. I've seen Stand By Me, but apparently in a somewhat different light, and I don't remember enough of Round The Twist, which I've seen only a few episodes of at the time, but I remember it was a mixture of family sitcom with a steady dose of supernatural elements.

We're still working on this - if we only had the time: ;)

http://www.malcolminthemiddle.co.uk/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=1143

Dicky

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I always felt like Wes Anderson's movies had a Pete & Pete for adults vibe. Watch Rushmore, Max's plays feel like something out of the Pete & Pete generation.

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Eerie, Indiana

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Exactly! Eerie, Indiana was in fact already mentioned on the 1st and 3rd pages of this thread, but I'm glad to see you support the view!

We already grouped them together:

http://www.malcolminthemiddle.co.uk/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=1143

Dicky

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Exactly! Eerie, Indiana was in fact already mentioned on the 1st and 3rd pages of this thread, but I'm glad to see you support the view!

We already grouped them together:

http://www.malcolminthemiddle.co.uk/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=1143

Dicky

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