Why didn't Casey Jones come out in this?
He did come out in the third one, so Elias Koteas was fine with playing the character.
Thoughts?
I think Elias Koteas wasn't available to film it...maybe?
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He wasnt ready to come out of the closet just yet, it was a different time.
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I read on another forum because the parents complaints grew momentum about the first film not being suitable for kids- that the character was dropped from number two. The Casey Jones character had a mask that looked too much like something from Friday the thirteenth. Mind you Casey Jones returns for number 3, but the character apparently is alot less darker then it was in the first one.
shareHe had the same mask in the cartoon, and a bad Clint Eastwood impression, too. Did parents complain about that?
shareParents should quit complaining about awesome movies! Turtles (1990) was dark and great, and oversensitive parents made the second movie into a childish ridicolous mess of a movie! They shouldn't have that much influence! Nowadays, saturday morning cartoons are so flat, boring and bland... thanks to feminists and hysterical overprotective paranoid parents. Enough of that! GOod that Turtles (2014) movie was dark again and for kids to watch :)
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When you think of allies to the TMNT, who first comes to mind? After Splinter and April, Casey Jones is probably your answer! The hockey-mask wearing vigilante is the perfect foil to Raphael; he has the same sarcastic, grumpy demeanor and is often depicted as just as brutal!share
Over the years we’ve gotten a bunch of iterations of Casey, from an insane buffoon to a teenage law enforcer. Elias Koteas’ Casey was a fan favorite, but was mysteriously absent in Secret of the Ooze.
This was mostly due to parent complaints about the first movie.
Casey was seen as a terrible role model for kids, using everyday sports equipment to beat thugs to a pulp. They also complained that his hockey mask costume scared their children. When Casey returned in the third movie, he was severely toned down; he didn’t wear his mask or use his weapons at all.
Elias Koteas also failed to return as the ice hockey stick-wielding vigilante and ally Casey Jones – though that was more down to the film’s shift away from adult themes and one of the more violent human characters.share
“Casey was discussed but the reason he dropped out – and I don’t think this was a major issue – was the direction we wanted to take the film,” Gray says. “We wanted to go lighter. That was part of cleaning up the act.”
In his place came Ernie Reyes Jr, a rising martial arts star who had served as a stuntman on the first film and was introduced as Keno, a pizza delivery boy who befriends the turtles. It was a stark departure from Koteas’s character but, once again, it was one Gray says came with the backing of the TMNT hierarchy.
“If Peter and Kevin had wanted Elias back, he would have been back. So, either we were able to convince them that we wanted to go with Ernie and they went along with it.”
I don't get why he wasn't in this one either.
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I like Casey, but I'm not really sure what there was for him to do in this movie. It seems like they had enough characters.
shareAgreed, but he got too close to the turtles and April in the first one so it feels like a continuity issue.
Plus Keno is pretty much a younger and nicer version of him...
you mean if they kept keno? they could have easily used casey where keno was and that takes care of that. keno pretty much came outta nowhere.
shareYou want a fist in the mouth? He’s never even looked at another guy.
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