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Screaming for a remake


Would a remake be better than this one or worse?

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Or you could just watch the movie! Why kids are so obsessed with everything being remade these days (of course you're a kid, otherwise you wouldn't be trying out for a remake) is beyond me. A movie gets a decade old and its written off as out-of-date.

This is only 22 years old and its old school FX have dated well (except the helicopter sequence), while I find the film more enjoyable than Raimi's Spider-man movies.

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No a remake is not such a bad idea at all. People need to grow up and stop calling other people kid for their opinion.

Remake is not a bad thing. Remakes have resulted in some of the greatest movies in cinematic history. Notably the new Batman series and Scarface come to mind.

Darkman is hardly a classic bit of movie history or untouchable in anyway. And with a 6.4 imdb rating that leads me to believe that not to many people would disagree with that statement. The ones here that do act childish and insane. I think Lucas has made us all think that a remake means that they are going to CGI in some storm troopers and have Greedo shoot first. No that is not a remake that is just f ing with the film. Darkman 1990 will still remain and there could be another Darkman movie in which you enjoy. What would be bad about that?

I'm not even saying I hate Darkman. Darkman has good concepts and interesting characters, but the execution is not perfect.

It's not like he's talking about remaking Casablanca.

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Uhh, no. The point is it could be better. I'm not talking about a Charlie's Angels attempt here. Darkman could be a good movie, even if the first one was just ok. So why not make it better?

And yes Batman is a remake. There was a Batman movie in the 60's. They toke the source material and remade it again in the 80's. Then Nolan again toke the source material and remade it with Bale. And they will probably do it again. Just because they call it a reboot doesn't make it any different.

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Batman and Batman Begins are NOT remakes, films adapted from the comic books have multiple interpretations to look toward, the 60's Batman was based on the 50-60's Batman comics, whereas the Burton Batman is more based on the 70-80's Batman. Batman Begins combines different versions, but mostly is based on the 2000's Batman stories. A remake is a film that takes ONE story and updates it for a new generation.
I don't think this film needs to be remade at the moment, it still holds up well and 20 years is still within the same generation who grew up with it, now give it another 10 years and I would say its fine to remake, since a new generation would enjoy an updated interpretation.

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"Remake is not a bad thing. Remakes have resulted in some of the greatest movies in cinematic history."

How many of today's remakes are even decent? Go ahead, think of one. I'll give you a minute...

"Darkman is hardly a classic bit of movie history or untouchable in anyway. And with a 6.4 imdb rating that leads me to believe that not to many people would disagree with that statement."

Of course, the imdb ratings always dictate how good a movie is.

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Judge Dredd.

Also of note, Batman (even though I personally didn't really like them), Conan was much less terrible than I thought it was going to be...

There that's three. Though I'll be honest, I'm hard pressed to even think of that many movies that are actually remakes. And you're right, they usually aren't as good as the originals or that great on their own. But that's not the same as being absolutely terrible. And I feel like a lot of the movies most people think about when they think terrible remake are actually just terrible sequels. But I could be wrong.

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Is 'Judge Dredd' a remake? I haven't seen it, so I'd have to take your word for it (at least, until I do see it), but it looks like it has nothing in common with Stallone movie except that they revolve around the same character and they're based on the same source material. That'd be like calling 'Mary Shelly's Frankenstein' (1994) a remake of 'Frankenstein' (1931).

With 'Batman (Begins, I'm assuming)' I never thought of it as a remake, but a adaptation. Is 'Batman' (1989) a remake of 'Batman: The Movie' (1966)?

This does not necessarily mean that a remake from today can't work, though again, I can't really think of many recently that have (I'm referring only to those that I actually consider remakes). And, yes, I did just say "many" because I came up with two; 'My Bloody Valentine 3D' and 'Piranha 3D' (I know most people would disagree with me on these, but tough tits). These are two that I found worked, but two out of (what are we up to now? 5 billion?) is not a good ratio.

That leads us to my main problem; I'm just plain sick of remakes. When there was a remake every once in a while I didn't complain too much, but now we have another remake coming out every nine minutes and I am starting to miss the days when I could talk about a movie without always having to specify which one I'm referring to. That maybe a smaller complaint, but I find it annoying.

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Fair enough.

I'll admit I'm always far more excited to hear about an original movie than I am a remake. Though I am a huge fan of sequels. Something about continuing adventures has always struck me.

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Yeah, sequels are often good. Some prequels too.

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You can't really say the new batman series and Al Pacino's scarface are remakes - the only similarity is the title. I hope they do try and remake it though, because they will just be made to look pathetic like 99.9% of remakes since the 1990 Darkman is a bona fide classic and deserving of a much higher score in IMDB.
As an aside, the only remake I've seen which has surpassed the original is 'True Grit'.

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Because even though I love the film, I think it does have flaws. I enjoy it's goofy tone but I know many others don't. I watched the film with some friends, and at the end asked them what they thought, and none of them had enjoyed it as much as I had.
So the idea of remaking it so it appeals to a newer generation is not a bad idea. I'd be interested to see what someone else could bring to the franchise. Maybe David Lynch would do it, and make it some cerebral art-movie about questioning the very meaning of having an identity, and it'll end with a twist that Peyton Westlake is an inmate at aan asylum with a multiple-personality-disorder.
Or maybe Spileberg would try his hand at it, and give us something very cinematic with lots of impressive effects with maybe a happier, haert-warming ending as Darkman comes to accept his problems and live with them.
Or maybe Sam Raimi would do it again, and do it even better than before while still keeping that goofy, light hearted + tragic horror tone.

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Yeah. Starring Robert Pattinson. Rated PG-13.
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STOP. Okay, okay, there'll be no remake. Let's remake "Drop Dead Fred" with Robert Pattinson instead. Or To Wong Foo.

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a remake would be terrible. i hate to say it, but this movie is near perfect. some of its effects dont hold up today but it would be really hard to top everything else. the cast is amazing and works well. the script works well. the movie's atmosphere is dark and it really feels like you are watching a comic book. the directing is amazing. the soundtrack is top notch and everything meshes so well. i just dont think theres much to improve on and a potential remake would more likely make things worse.

this is one of my favorite superhero movies of all time. the reason is that it really feels like you are watching a comic book. it matches the tone and style and everything. its just funny it wasnt actually based on a comic (this probably says more about comic book films though).

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I'd like to see a remake.
As long as Sam was behind it and made it more to his original vision and story.

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Sure, do a remake and ruin this classic, go right ahead.

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How will that ruin the original film? I don't understand when people say that, does making a remake mean that the original is burned and no more copies exists? No.

Let me ask you, did you like The Fly, The Blob, Horror of Dracula, Frankenstein, Bram Stoker's Dracula, The Omega Man, etc. Guess what THOSE ARE REMAKES

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Technically half of those are adaptations of books, lol.

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Lmao every single time someone says that a remake will ruin the original, there is ALWAYS someone not too far behind coming in and saying that "the original is still there for you to enjoy and the remake won't erase it". Every time.

A lot of times remakes sort of tarnish the reputation of the original and it's really annoying having to constantly differentiate the two. Plus you have the young morons saying the new one is better because they're too shallow and close minded that they cannot understand greatness and instead go for style over substance. Make something entirely new instead of rehashing someone else's ideas or remake a movie that was bad to begin with, not one that has nothing wrong with it. They only ever remake good movies and they're almost always watered down and soulless cash-ins. So stupid. Darkman is NOT "screaming for a remake" at all. It still holds up today and is fine the way it is. It needs not be updated.

And most of the movies you listed are not remakes, by the way, just different adaptions of the same source material.

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I don't think a remake would be best for Darkman.

I've said it before, but in my opinion, Darkman should continue, but not as a reboot. (You know the way these things go, it'd probably be a goofy, pseudo-gritty, music-video style mess) The best bet for the franchise these days would be a TV-series. With Sam working on shows like Spartacus, I feel like he'd be able to get a channel like Starz or Showtime to get behind a serious Darkman series.

I'd love to see a mature series that takes place years after the initial trilogy, and follows Peyton as he uses his synthetic skin to take down various criminal organizations that threaten he and his city.

And FURTHERMORE, this is my signature! SERIOUSLY! Did you think I was still talking about my point?

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Darkman was never properly exploited. The sequels sucked.

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No, it does not need a remake! When are you people are going to just watch the original as it is. Some of ya'll are just too lazy and unwilling to watch it, so you expect washed-up Hollywood to remake for you.

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Nope, they just need to re-release the old film in theaters if they want more money.

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Nope not even if you'd pay me. :) What does "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" mean?

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rather than a remake, why not another sequel? i liked both sequels (particularly the second one), only i think it should be in theaters this time so both Neeson and Raimi will sign on for it.

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honestly i would personally love to remake this movie. i would take an approach like the new Evil Dead and make it a lot darker and serious probably to heighten the tension and what not. it would be a fun project. if the right director took it on i could see it being cool.

"Long live the new flesh."

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I think a 'remake' cold be pretty cool. I'd like to see more focus put on the idea of him replacing physical sensation with emotional sensation and less focus on the Cindarella time limit skin.

Thomas Jane as Peyton/Darkman? First name that came to mind, probably because of the whole avenging vigilante in a long black coat thing.



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