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Prostitutes? this move made me sick.....


Ok I like totally wanted to shut it off after the part with the Prostitute. I mean Erik was obsessed with Christine and all but wouldn't go as far as picking up a prostitute and telling her that her name is going to be Chrisitne as he begins to undress her. That made me soooo sick and besides as the story goes....

Christine- Have you gorged yourself at last, in your lust for blood?
Am I now to be prey to your
lust for flesh?

Erik-That fate, which condemns me to wallow in blood has also denied me
the joys of the flesh.

he's a Virgin..... please does anyone else feel the same way I do.. Just don't see this movie....

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Where does it show him actually sleeping with the prostitute?

All we see is him saying that for that night, her name was Christine. Could be that he was living out a non-sexual fantasy with her, much like Riggs in Lethal Weapon paying a prostitute $100 to go home and watch the 3 Stooges with him. It is entirely feasible that the Phantom paid her to sit there, listen to music, and let him call her Christine for a bit with maybe some light petting, using her as a proxy for his own 'high on a pillar' ideal of Christine Daae.

Just a thought.

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So let me get this straight... you're fine with all the blood and gore but a scene with a prostitute makes you sick? Hmm...

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In this version, it seems to fit IMO that if he couldn't have Christine at that moment, he'd seek out prostitute to stand in for her. It comes across to me as something he has done before (?) or maybe that is just me. I also wonder if he actually had his way with them or if they offered conversation and the like, that he wanted with Christine.

The real 'sick' parts (which I don't mind given this version is meant to be more horror) are the parts concerning his killing and stitching himself up.

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This movie was a deliberate attempt to apply a modern approach to the classic story, and therefore it assumes that today's audiences would expect Erik to have needs like any other man. Personally, I've always thought that the scene where the prostitute wakes to find that Erik has left three golden coins under her pillow (which almost certainly was considerably more than the agreed price) to be strangely touching. The girl has provided him with much-needed human contact & comfort (even if he had to pay for it) and he's grateful. She's the only character in the film - and that includes Christine - whom Erik doesn't threaten or mistreat.


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Why do people feel the need to compare every phantom adaption to the goddamn musical. This film set its own universe, its own phantom, christine, raoul, etc. I also have a feeling you are a teenage girl.

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To the OP: This is a different interpretation of Leroux's novel; quoting the Lloyd Webber musical as gospel is moot. I think you're missing the point of the prostitute in this version.

Erik had just seen Christine triumph in Faust and was elated and aroused. Leaving the theater, he hires a prostitute who shares physical characteristics with Christine and tells her that's what he'll call her for the night. He celebrated the success by making love with Christine via proxy. Afterwards, Erik brutally murders the three thieves. This is followed by another quick scene with the prostitute. We see her bare arms, legs and back, then a close-up of her face. She wakes up, reaches under the pillow and finds the money. She turns onto her back and we see a quick glimpse of her breast.

For me, the scenes with the prostitute are important, because they show the duality of Erik's character. They bracket the murder scene. We see his savagery during the killings, but we also see that the prostitute has no bruises, scratches or other signs of physical violence and the payment was generous. What can be inferred is that Erik is a gentle lover (watch how he reaches back to take her hand after blowing out the match). At the beginning of the Faust performance, we have the flashback of Erik working in a brothel where he was friends with, and no doubt took his pleasure with, the women working there. I think the scene with the prostitute is bittersweet, as it reminds him of his past, before he was cursed.

This movie isn't for everybody, but I think it has more going for it than a lot of people realize.

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Oh, please! At least he *paid* for it. It's not like he threw some girl into an alley and raped her!

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