So indy gets inmortal ?
He drank from the holy grail so that means he will live forever ? if so tell me in what state he lives i wanna visit him LOL
shareHe drank from the holy grail so that means he will live forever ? if so tell me in what state he lives i wanna visit him LOL
shareNo.
Did you watch the film?
It is explained that the grail can not pass the great seal, for that is the price of immortality.
Elsa took the grail over the seal.
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You have to keep drinking for it to work. Indy and his dad got a sip that healed wins and maybe added a few years.
shareindy drinking from the grail was the reason he was still able to kick ass in the krystal skull at 57
shareHa ha ha
shareWhat state he lives in? Pretty obvious it will be.....
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If they had stayed behind the seal, they'd have remained immortal, but as someone pointed out, that was the price of immortality.
Once they crossed the seal, they were left with good health, but otherwise no more longevity than before they drank from the grail (assuming there was no previous health problem).
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Okay, so this makes no sense. If the grail doesn't work outside of the temple, why did it need a crusade knight to guard it, or booby traps, or even the elaborate measures to conceal its location?
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Okay, so this makes no sense. If the grail doesn't work outside of the temple, why did it need a crusade knight to guard it, or booby traps, or even the elaborate measures to conceal its location?
It is bad to drink Jobu's rum. Very bad.share
That doesn't really work, either. If you want to hide something, then don't leave a trail of clues they way they did. That's just begging for somebody to find it, although they made it difficult. The best way to keep people from finding something would be to throw it into a chasm, exactly what happened in the end. Nobody will ever find it now.
shareThat's an interesting point that you make. Even though I've watched all the Indy movies numerous times, I never really thought about it. Now it has raised many questions in my head which are similar to yours. What use would the grail be to the Nazis (or any villain) if its effects are cancelled once the seal is crossed? Similarly, what use is the Ark if anyone who opens it is destroyed? Both these items possess incredible power but that power cannot be harnessed or used so why take such great measures to hide them? And why take even great measures to search for them?
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Well, I suppose theoretically Hitler could live in the temple like the knight did, sending out orders to his minions via courier or radio. Of course, that would make him very vulnerable if the Allies found out where he was hiding. Or if the effects are lasting even after one exits the temple, he could leave it where it was and return periodically to drink from it. After all, Henry Jones's bullet wound didn't reappear after he crossed the seal.
shareWhat use would the grail be to the Nazis (or any villain) if its effects are cancelled once the seal is crossed?
Similarly, what use is the Ark if anyone who opens it is destroyed?
What use would the grail be to the Nazis (or any villain) if its effects are cancelled once the seal is crossed?
The grail doesn't 'stop working' after crossing the seal. The seal is there only to stop the cup leaving the cave.
The use for the Nazis for this type of object is not just in the magical/mystical capabilities it may have, but in its ability to show the masses that the Nazis are the chosen race. Their agenda was to prove that the Arian race was above all others (specifically Jews, but really ALL others) and in obtaining items like the grail of Christ, it would be "proof".
That's my theory anyway.
"If you want to hide something, then don't leave a trail of clues they way they did. That's just begging for somebody to find it"
This was my thought also - movies seem to make this mistake quite a lot. "We don't want anyone to find this mummified woman / powerful ark / holy cup / etc., so we will first seal it well somewhere deep and hard-to-access - and then we'll draw a detailed map and 20 different clues pointing to this exact location and spread those around just in case someone wants to find it".
It's like limousine logic; tinted-window limousine passengers seem to say, "Look at me! But don't look at me!"
I believe, however, that the knights knew they could not last forever, even with the Grail. Recall that the knight in the cave said he had been waiting; essentially waiting for a replacement. His brothers left the clues so someone, with great effort, intelligence and, hopefully, wisdom would eventually find the cave and replace the third brother.
shareActually if you pay attention to the discussion of the markers, the knight buried in Venice died of extreme old age.
So he might not have been immortal like the knight with the grail, but he definitely lived a lot longer than normal.
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The question is, when was the seal built? Is this the only place where the grail "works"? And if it just has its powers behind the seal, did it ever had any powers before it reached its final location?
And I´m asking myself, if it´s worth to lose the grail at all when it is falling down the broken seal. I don´t think that the knight will go down and grab up the grail. But maybe there´s a secret stair down there...
I am always thinking of the alternative ending in the adventure game, when the knight tells, he has to clean up the whole place. I´m not sure if this ending would have fit... But it´s kinda great. :)
No, but he added a good 20-50 years or even more to his lifespan. Extreme old age usually means over 100.
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I interpreted the knight's explanation as meaning that there can only be one Grail guardian at a time. The time was going to come when a new guardian would come and the knight would die I guess. The Grail was waiting for someone worthy to come to be the next guardian just like the present guardian was worthy enough to find the Grail and be the first guardian.
No one knew the limitations on the Grail's power. The Nazis didn't know. Not even Indy knew. The legend seems to me to have been that a single drink from it gave immortality but that turns out to not be true. The truth was that the Grail restored health and extended life but it had to be drank from periodically to keep it going. The Grail couldn't leave the temple but I think people who came across it could leave the temple but would have to keep coming back to get another drink in order to keep on living and having perfect health. The knights who went back to France benefited from drinking from the Grail by perhaps living 100 extra years or so but because they couldn't drink from it again they were unable to live 700 years. Even then though, I don't think people who were able to keep coming back to the Temple to drink from the Grail would've lived literally for ever. Eventually the Grail wouldn't be able to help them and they would die but probably after living 700 years or so. It seems to me the knight was dying after living in the cave for 700 years and expected a new knight to replace him. Once the Grail was forever lost the knight would probably die and there would be no new Grail guardian. The age of the Grail was over.