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Extreme evidence of time line manipulation


Field of Dreams (1989). Do remember when the voice repeatedly says "If you build it, THEY will come?" Do you remember the plot of the movie being about Kevin Costner selflessly plowing his cornfield into a baseball mound so that, eventually *THEY* will be THOUSANDS of people from all across America coming to see Ghost baseball players, and reinspiring a nation? Do you remember the ending, when the game is being played at night, and hundreds of people are in the bleachers? That was *my* version, that I watched repeatedly in the 1990s.

Or do you remember the movie about INDIVIDUALS? The voice saying, "If you build it *HE* will come."? About the main support character "Shoeless" Joe? And instead of thousands showing up for the game, they just TALK about it and it turns out "HE" was Costner's *father*, and he has a scene about "HEY! I DID EVERYTHING AND I GET NOTHING?!" that is completely missing from my childhood version?

One is about self-sacrifice, teamwork, crowds, inclusion and *us* as a people. The one in this reality is about REWARDS (seeing father), INDIVIDUALS, no crowds and really ISOLATION (only FIVE people ever see the baseball players in this version!!).

Do you remember what *I* remember? If so, SOMETHING has happened to our fundamental reality. And I swear to you, this is just the tip of the iceberg! Ask yourself, "Was it BerenSTEIN Bears, or BerenSTAIN?" and "Was Australia surrounded by water by a 1,000 miles, or was it just 100 miles away from Papa New Guinea?"

Research The Mandela Effect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ay5GqJwHF8

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We watched it during class in my latter high school days, i graduated in 2003 and we indeed watched a movie about Kevin Costner hears a voice telling him to build a baseball diamond in his cornfield an that people would come from all around to see it and as he was doubting the voice told him "if you build it they will come" meaning the people would come and he can save his farm or whatever. So he like the OP says works effortlessly to make the diamond and suceeds and it ends with a large crowd of people there watching the dead baseball players.

This is how i have always known this movie and i was horrified to find out that it is completely different just a few short months ago

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I just posted about this so-called "Mandela Effect" on Youtube. Here's what I wrote:

You remember things misspelled because, in most cases, the real spellings are different from how they "should" be spelled and you simply didn't pay attention. E.g., "Cap'n Crunch": It's pronounced "Captain Crunch," it's mentally remembered as sounding like that, so, therefore, you assume it's actually spelled that way without really looking at the cereal box to find out.

The movie quotes: They're misremembered because a) they become popularized through some comedian or talk-show host riffing on it incorrectly, and it's the mis-memory that is remembered, or b) they become generalized ("build it and they will come" is now a line used to encourage someone to do something, so saying "build it and HE will come" makes zero sense to say. Or "Life is like a box of chocolates" is just a way of saying that life is full of surprises. It makes no sense to say "Life WAS like a box of chocolates" to someone to indicate that life can throw some curve balls. In the Gump movie, however, Hanks's character is mentally challenged and speaks in a way that reflects that fact. When you're talking to a friend and trying to indicate that life is full or twists and turns, you are speaking in the present tense and are, presumably, speaking normally. So *you'd* say that life IS like a box of chocolates. Since "life is like a box of chocolates" and "build it and they will come" are the phrases most often heard after a quote has become generalized, people mis-remember "having heard" those lines spoken that way in the original movies as well.

So, you go through a website and see page after page of mis-memories, and then feel as if you can't trust your instincts when, in fact, there's nothing wrong with you or your instincts or your memories. You simply weren't paying enough attention in the first place, and remembered things incorrectly for logical, sane reasons. There is no "parallel universe." The fabric of space-time is just fine. God is in His Heaven and all is right with the world.

--- but it's fun to see these mis-memories all in one place! So I'm glad that the "Mandela Effect" idea is out there for that reason. I just wish people would think more logically about it all and not freak themselves out over it.

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Yes! I was positive it was if you build it "they" will come. I watched this movie loads of times as a kid and im sure it was "they". Even in some other movies that reference it or make fun of it im sure they say "they". I cant remember exactly which ones. But I do remember one episode of married with children where Bud builds a wormhole gate in his basement. Im sure he says "they". But this is all just memory. And memory is the worst possible witness of anything. Witnesses to crimes have sworn it was a blue car and it was bright red. Memory is just too vague. Even some dreams over time can become "memory". Reading about the mandela effect now its very interesting.

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Yes, this is how most people remember the movie. "If you build it, they will come" is the original line and the way I know it. The changes are what we (those who see the changes) call Mandela Effect. Field of Dreams is not the only movie to be "effected." Moonraker has changed, as has Risky Business. Jaws, Terminator, Apollo 13 and many others. As well as books, names and product logos. Look into Mandela Effect for more info.

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Yes, this is how most people remember the movie. "If you build it, they will come" is the original line and the way I know it.


And you'd be just as wrong as everyone else who thinks that that's the original line. Someone above correctly pointed out that if that line was changed due to a timeline shift, we'd not be aware of it...

I remember it as "he" quite clearly. Maybe the "mandela effect" is a symptom of early stage of dementia.

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Discussion of timelines & timeline manipulation is utterly beside the point with this film. It's fable & parable, not science-fiction. It's one with many works of poetry & literature across the centuries in which people hear voices, see visions, and are given a mission with increasingly more difficult tasks to test their willingness & belief. In this regard, it has a lot in common with Close Encounters of the Third Kind, as Roy Neary is similarly touched by a vision from on high & pursues it despite every obstacle in his way. Roger Ebert was right in his initial review of it: this is a religious picture, but the religion is baseball. And baseball is the framework for its story about faith & redemption for all of its characters.

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Here's a reference to it closer to when it was released. I'm not sure how anyone can explain this away. I saw it when it came out. All anyone has ever said in reference to the film is "they" will come.
https://youtu.be/9ArIs8R1aAo?t=176
There was a longer clip of this, but I don't see it.

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It was never "they". NEVER.

The reason people misremember it as "they" is because the line was so quotable, everyone used it from general conversation, sit com scripts, to TV commercials, and most of them used "they" instead of "he" because it fit better.

For instance, a few years ago I heard a local sports talk show talking about the Oakland A's poor attendance even when they're a playoff team, and the speculation was they would move to Las Vegas. The host literally said about a new ballpark for the A's in 'Vegas "if you build it, they will come".

How many things can you build where it would bring a single person? In Field of Dreams, Ray was supposed to plow under his cornfield and build a full sized baseball field - for Shoeless Joe Jackson, not anyone else.

Remember when Joe finally did show up at the field and told Ray there were "others"? Ray told Joe of course, they would all be welcome. Ray didn't say he built it for all of "them".

How about the end, when Shoeless Joe quotes the "voice". From the script:

SHOELESS JOe: 'If you build it...' He nods toward where the catcher (Ray's father) is taking off his gear at home plate. ' ...he will come.'

Did you also remember Joe saying to Ray "if you build it, they will come"?


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