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Extreme evidence of time line manipulation

posted 9 years ago by hopeseekr
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Field of Dreams (1989). Do remember when the voice repeatedly says "If you build it, THEY will come?" Do you remember the plot of the movie being about Kevin Costner selflessly plowing his cornfield into a baseball mound so that, eventually *THEY* will be THOUSANDS of people from all across America coming to see Ghost baseball players, and reinspiring a nation? Do you remember the ending, when the game is being played at night, and hundreds of people are in the bleachers? That was *my* version, that I watched repeatedly in the 1990s.

Or do you remember the movie about INDIVIDUALS? The voice saying, "If you build it *HE* will come."? About the main support character "Shoeless" Joe? And instead of thousands showing up for the game, they just TALK about it and it turns out "HE" was Costner's *father*, and he has a scene about "HEY! I DID EVERYTHING AND I GET NOTHING?!" that is completely missing from my childhood version?

One is about self-sacrifice, teamwork, crowds, inclusion and *us* as a people. The one in this reality is about REWARDS (seeing father), INDIVIDUALS, no crowds and really ISOLATION (only FIVE people ever see the baseball players in this version!!).

Do you remember what *I* remember? If so, SOMETHING has happened to our fundamental reality. And I swear to you, this is just the tip of the iceberg! Ask yourself, "Was it BerenSTEIN Bears, or BerenSTAIN?" and "Was Australia surrounded by water by a 1,000 miles, or was it just 100 miles away from Papa New Guinea?"

Research The Mandela Effect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ay5GqJwHF8

[–] Zach126 9 years ago

Whatever you're smoking, I definitely want some. LoL

[–] MovieKnut 9 years ago

Peace out man!

You can't palm off a second-rater on me. You gotta remember I was in the pink!

[–] Doc80 9 years ago

Well I remember "If you build it, he will come" because that's what is said.

[–] MechaLechaHighMechaHineyHineyHo 9 years ago

and he has a scene about "HEY! I DID EVERYTHING AND I GET NOTHING?!" that is completely missing from my childhood version?

Except you don't seem to realize, right after he says that, he is questioned with "Is that why you did this? For you?" And, because of this, is told to stay there. This in turn leads in to Terrence telling him he is one to go through with this so he can write about his experience and make his big comeback to writing. And this in turn leads to Ray meeting a younger version of his father, which is what "he will come" meant, so they can have a chance to do what they never got to do. This would mean the thing about selflessness and teamwork is still present going by the logic that it has somehow been altered.

So does this mean, in the 80's and 90's, Ray never met his father? What led in to that scene? Sorry, but there is a high probability that maybe many people just remembered it wrong. I can't say for sure because i didn't know about this movie in the 90's. I have seen people insist they have seen it many times and distinctly remember "they will come", and you're the first person i've seen who claims the "what's in it for me" scene was not there (and also seems to take it out of context, claiming that was a moral) The question i have to ask, however, is how old are most of these people? If they were kids, they could have just heard or remembered it wrong. I am not 100% completely brushing it off as possible, but i kind of doubt this is the case.

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Evil must be punished!

[–] McQueen1980 9 years ago

at the start i swore he said that his dad was born in 1986 as opposed to 1896

[–] justin40580 9 years ago

Yeah. I remember the movie liked you described....odd

[–] lahscious 8 years ago

I just watched the movie tonight after not having seen it in years and I kept thinking that the quote was wrong. I truly remember the voice saying "if you build it, they will come". I also clearly remember the scene at the end with the bleachers full of people.
But the movie I watched tonight was different.
Weird.

[–] rivkasieff 8 years ago

I'm gonna have to watch it again, I recall the film as the creator of this thread did.

[–] lahscious 8 years ago

I just watched an episode of the Gilmore Girls and Lorelai quoted "If you build it, they will come".
I know GG isn't 'source material', but it jumped out at me since I just posted about that very line just a few days ago. It appears the writers of Gilmore Girls remembers the quote the same as many of us do.

[–] MechaLechaHighMechaHineyHineyHo 8 years ago

So to you, and all the people out here making claims, tell me this...

How is it that they have altered the timeline, and yet several of you remember it a certain way? From what I understand, if they altered the timeline, you'd remember it always being the way it is now because, if the timeline has been altered, then that's technically the way it always has been. That old timeline you speak of would cease to exist, that would be it, and there is no way you'd remember it as this strange alternate timeline had it because it's been wiped out of existence. That past did not happen. If the timeline has changed, and you were not the cause of it, then the memory you'd have would change as well. You could not possibly remember it the way it was before the change because, as i said, that past just went poof.

Another thing that baffles me, is why does there still exist movies and tv shows referencing the line from the old timeline? If it has been changed, then wouldn't the reference change?

In my opinion, the "mandella effect" (which seems to be the current name of an idea that has been floating around for at least a decade) is just a nicer way of saying "pfft. Me? Remember it wrong? Oh, don't be so preposterous! Clearly the elites of the world are altering the timeline and changing things, and only the enlightened ones are remembering the real past while all those drug zombies are going with the flow."

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Evil must be punished!

[–] matthiuchi 8 years ago

thats because people remember things differently and hear things incorrectly then repeat them over and over and over again and the inaccuracy becomes cultural and now you swear you remember it being the wrong way because you remember hearing everyone saying it wrong for decades..

[–] jecorbett-69821 8 years ago

I have seen that movie many times and I have no idea what you guys are talking about. I've never seen anything like what was described by the OP. The only thing I can think of is somehow you saw a director's cut of the movie with scenes that were cut from the final theatrical version. The line was always "If you build it, HE will come". Ray thought HE mean Shoeless Joe Jackson but it turned out HE was his father. The final scene showed the cars lined up as far as the eye could see.

PS. I visited the farm where the movie was shot a few years ago. They have a small gift shop. The field was in place but since it was early June the corn was less than a foot high.

[–] MechaLechaHighMechaHineyHineyHo 8 years ago

People who spout this clearly have little to no understanding of how life or the human mind works. They think simply and superstitiously to compensate for what little they know. When people don't have proper/full knowledge of a subject, their mind fills in the blanks and replaces it with a fantasy, a delusion, and it is always within their state of understanding, their mindset. I see stuff like this all the time. Many of us have a set state of mind and find it either difficult or uncomfortable to come out of it. That is why people with greatly different opinions than their own seem radical and out of this world. The "Mandella Effect" is just another example and expression of this.

As i stated earlier, there should be no reason to think our memories of the "old timeline" should still be intact. If the timeline has been changed, our memories of the old timeline would cease to exist as the events have been replaced. What happened would have always happened no matter what. There would be no "It used to be, now it's not/it is", just "This happened." It leads me to believe those who champion the "Mandella Effect" either do or want to think they're special in that the "zombie masses" are effected, but those of the "enlightened few" have caught on. It's pure delusion and arrogance.

On a final note, here's a thought for you ME believers...When i was little, i remember seeing the show I Dream of Jeannie, and in one part of it i always used to remember it as sounding like, in my crazy head "just a little bit derrick" Derrick, in my mind, referred to the black kid in the early/mid-90s lineup of the show Barney and Friends. I remember the mental images in my head when thinking that. I also remember explaining it has to do with Derrick from the show. However, when i recall this event to my parents and possibly my brothers, they remember me as saying "Derriss" and they recall wondering what a Derriss is. Another one is me calling the curl thing down wrestler Razor Ramon's forehead a "Colontuse" (p. col-on, closer to colony, rather than colon) However, my brothers and my parents both remember me instead calling it a "Contuse", even though i clearly remember it giving me the vibe of the former word. The curl made me think of col-on, and tuse was fueled by his expression, so i remember that pretty clearly. Why then do they remember it differently? Did the Mandella effect make my family remember an alternate version of me? I thought it had to do with famous stuff like this of some purpose to some big government plot, not normal everyday irrelevant people like us.

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Evil must be punished!

[–] taticat 8 years ago

It's an amazing testimony to a certain type's self obsession and titanic ignorance that, where normal people are amused by their memory errors and self-correct when presented with proof that they are wrong, this type will leapfrog over Occam's Razor without a second thought and immediately embrace outlandish claims of alternate timelines, aliens, the illuminati, and so on. This is really sad, and I'm honestly embarrassed for these people.

Critical thinking skills in America have hit an all-time low; even the failure to examine the claims made by all these non-experts as being exactly that -- incorrect claims by non-experts -- speaks to the abysmal state of the average citizens' intellect.

Even the claim that FoD's line had changed is absurd and doesn't fit at all with the actual story. These are mistakes being made by mental 'tourists'; they don't read, and cannot process what they see or her on any level deeper than literalism. To this type of 'tourist', saying 'they will come' makes sense because that's what happens at the end; people come to visit the field. They are completely, blissfully unaware of any deeper storyline that makes '...he will come' the clearly correct quote. This is just sad.

Parents, unplug your child's tv, phone, internet, gaming console, and anything else that requires exactly zero brain cells, and make them read. Their ability to function in this world as an adult depends upon it, and it's reached a critical point.

[–] mytravelbug1 8 years ago

I had a copy of this movie on VHS in the 90's and bought the DVD when it was released,it has always been as it is now "he will come" "what's in it for me" and the car's lining up at the end. It has always been that way.