Fear of Aliens


Ever since I was a kid I have always been afraid of Aliens. Everytime I see something on them on the tv, and they show a sketch of a Grey, I get terrfied for weeks.
Last summer I remember watching something on the discover channel about aliens, and I stopped sleeping at night. I didn't want to tell anyone because people would assume that I was crazy. I would always peak out to see if there was anything there in the darkness, and whenever my body feel alseep but my mind stay awake, I thought I was being abducted.
I'm still terribly afraid of greys, the over sized, jet black eyes for me are the most chilling image I can ever imagen. I would like to know if anyone else shares this fear of Aliens? Or am I just crazy.

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You're definately not crazy.

I needed a nightlight for years after watching Fire in the sky at age 7 - and then i heard about Communion and saw the box on a shelf in blockbuster and nearly started crying.

I am 19 now and finally saw Communion - and the movie was so silly that it helped me totally get over my fear.

But ya, i used to hate grays with a passion - but it will pass. I mean, Whitley Strieber was never brutally harmed by them and he now claims he looks forwards to seeing them now.

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greys are a product of human psyche, denouncing badly resolved patologies from the people who report having contact with them. The biggest threat for us humans resides within, our minds are responsible for projecting these images of impending terror, suggesting us to believe and sense things that doesnt exist. You are being a victim of media suggestion, hold on to your rational thought. If a mentally unstable person finds means to spread the information bout his dellusions on a mass scale, soon after a lot of people will swear they had the same thing, giving it a presposperous meaning, a meaning the media and some scientists and aficionados find more suitable for thir theories, interpretations and profit. The human mind loves the unknown, lets face it, we all do, we find ourselves tempted to lean towards the unexplained, especially the issues with creepy undertones, somekind of a reverse philosophical Cave Allegory, proving that our thought hasnt progressed that much troughout the ages. That "creepy unknown" factor on through the centuries beared the name of mysticism, witchcraft, and now ufology. The mind is just a powerful weapon, a very powerful one, its up to us to battle our own fears, especially those who were thrusted into us by persuasive devices of misguided information, you read books about the subject and you find yrself baffled with all the vague-ness of it all: no substancial proofs, no tangible statements, no nothing. It´s a modern-day mythology, and, remember, mythologies always play a trick on us.

What i fear are the dangers of our world and our society, its just too damn easy to lay down in the dark and start creating monsters in our head. Grow out of it.

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You've nailed it, buddy. I too believe the alien abductors are indeed a product of the human mind.

Some of our delusions have created a life of their own: one particularly persistent one involves a big, bearded fellow sitting on a cloud and dispensing divine judgment on all of us...

"Isn't killing people in the name of god a pretty good definition of insanity?"
-Arthur C. Clarke

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First, i DON´T know anything and i dont pretend i know it, id be very stupid if i thought that way. I simply expressed my opinion about the issue of alien abductions and greys after stating that the person who opened this board of disvussion is being victim of a specific type of irrational fear that maybe is bringing her a bad time. If she cant sleep well at night because shes afraid of being abducted and feels terrified when she sees a picture of a grey creature, its clear that shes not ok, not in the sense of being insane, but in the way that she should live her life peacefully and joyfully and not be captive of dark terrors. It´s a question of getting some seroius information about the issue, hear and read BOTH SIDES (pros and cons) of the alien abduction theory and make up her own mind about it. Thats what i did and i came to a conclusion. Everyone who´s interested in the alien phenomenon should do the same research but its always important to analyze more than just one current of thinking. If that doesnt help her overcoming that fear, she should just stop thinking about aliens, pure and simple.
Now, that was just my personal advice to her. Taking this issue to a broader context, therefore, the unknown and our reaction to it. We all have almost the same reaction to the unknown: Unease and uncertainty. Its typical, when we cant find clear answers, were back to our primordial cave, to our darkness, just like ive said previously, and we try to secure ourselves and find somekind of comfort by inventing and giving it all kind of meanings. But there are plausible meanings and there are prespousperous meanings. I believe in meanings that contain somekind of a fundament, theories that went under serious investigation and were not based in semi-fantasy. Id be very disappointed if we were alone in the universe and, in the vastness of it all, its hard to believe that there arent other lifeforms. Now, if thats true, should i be terrified? No, im not terrfied of the unknown, the issues concerning the existence of God, the after-death, our supposed sole existence in the whole universe they make me very curious, but its hard to tell how I´ll feel later about the question of death, maybe i´ll be scared, who knows. They are those big question marks that we cant avoid. And im no different. But believing in alien abductions, i personally dont. Think about it, has any abduction case leaked into the public eye in a seroius way? Tell me any case that made the news on an extensive period and dont tell me about major world governments cover ups. Think for example the roswell alien autopsy tape some years ago, has anyone taken it seriously? It aired on programs but that was it, even ufologists and alien aficionados were fairly quiet about it, especially when a rogue company called morgana productions unveiled it as a hoax with photos of the dummies. By the way, those dummies were terrifying, no wonder people get scared. That leads to another question, what are the odds that lifeforms from distant galaxies develop similar features like us humans, like 2 eyes, 2 ears, a mouth, 2legs, 2 arms and torso? Doesnt it ring you? What are the odds that the primitive lifecells on that planet were the same as in Earth, plus given the different conditions of the distant planet, which as you know, the environment conditions play a decisive role on the constitution and evolution of the lifeforms? Hmmmmm very unlikely, at least we should assume that aliens should have a different, even completely new to us, form of life. Now, skinny little ones with huge black eyeballs and with a creepy smirk is plain stupid. Think about REM sleeping, when wile sleeping, we suddenly awake and our brain is completely dormant, our body is completely paralyzed, we cant move and we cant speak, because the brain is not functioning thus not commanding the body. We feel a sense of sheer panic. It happened to me more than once in my teens and i always managed to fall asleep again. Next morning there was no probe up my ass. Go figure.

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As I have previously stated, I mostly agree with you on this subject. I actually believe that the phenomenon of unidentified flying objects is worth studying, not because they might be interstellar vehicles, but a yet unknown natural occurrence. Similarly, abductions are pretty interesting when viewed from sociological and psychological point of view.

On the subject of life evolving on other planets, you have a point in that alien beings would probably differ from Homo sapiens greatly, but there is a limit to that difference:

A highly intelligent being, for instance, cannot have too many limbs, as its brain power would be wasted on operating those limbs. If there is intelligent life out there, it probably doesn't have twenty-plus tentacles sticking out of its body. 2-4 limbs are enough to move the creature around swiftly enough to avoid danger and to make the most of its surroundings.

The being cannot be too small in size, because then it would be too frail to achieve anything meaningful in its environment. True, it could benefit from living in massive groups and using the powers of a collective mind, but as an individual, it would still be rather frail and helpless.

On the other hand, if the creature is too big, then its time (and brain capacity) would be wasted in finding and consuming enough food to create the energy needed to move its mass around.

The number of eyes is also an important factor. As we know, some insects can have a hundreds of eyes with which they can perceive their environment. But they live in a constant state of awareness of their surroundings. They eat, mate and avoid being eaten by predators (or squashed by us). Absorping information through hundreds of channels (not just eyes, but other senses as well) puts an enormous strain on a creature's brain. No time is left to the thinking process. Again, as in the case of limbs, less is more.

While the form of Homo sapiens is pretty good for an intelligent creature, we too, have limitations. Physically, we cannot leave very far form our basic element, the solid ground of planet earth. We can fly, but we need planes and helicopters; we can dive, but we need heavy breathing apparatus, or submarines to help us reach the bottom of the sea. And we still have conquered only a tiny fraction of the ocean floor.

We can travel in space, but only for relatively short periods: the weightless environment reduces the mass of our muscles and bones. Astronauts who spend long periods in space are ather weak when they are re-introduced to gravitational forces.


It is true that the circumstances in other planets may yield forms of life we cannot even imagine, but intelligent life does have its limitations. A grey is not that bad of a guess as to what intelligent life on some habitable planet might evolve into. Given the way human beings evolve, we ourselves might end up looking like that after a few hundred million years...

"Isn't killing people in the name of god a pretty good definition of insanity?"
-Arthur C. Clarke

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I personally think the problem is that too many crazy people have cried wolf on the matter, making up alien abduction stories and making us think that they all must be cry wolf.


making it very very frustrating for those who ARE encountering something

i simply don't believe that the encounters are as common as some people think. Like Strieber said in one of his books that visitors enter the lives of millions of people - - - i doubt that because then it would be harder to cover up or to claim false.

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Greys are most certainly NOT a product of the human psyche. There has been much research into the abduction phenomenon. To date, no evidence has been produced to suggest abductees are in any way mentally unstable or ill. They appear to be normal people who represent a broad cross-section of society.

I don't know what's happening to these people, but mental illness and mass psychosis doesn't seem to provide an answer.

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Sleep paralysis?! Did all of Strieber's guests get sleep paralysis all at once, and then just happened to share the same hallucination? Are you going to tell me sleep paralysis explains the Travis Walton case? Does sleep paralysis lead to unexplained scars and nosebleeds?

Besides, many of these cases happen when the abductee is wide awake.

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Strieber's guests all have sleep paralyis, and they all just happened to have an attack simultaneously?!

Do you even know who Travis Walton is? Mental illness definitely does not exlain that bizarre case.

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Mass hysteria? That's even more unlikely than alien abduction.

No, the men in the Walton case were not hypnotized. Futhermore, up to a third of abductees are able to recall their experiences without the aid of hypnosis.

If you want to familiarize yourself with the case, try doing a google search.

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Fair enough. But you have to admit these cases can't be explained away by sleep paralysis, mental illness and so forth.

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Spiderguy, if you had bothered to do your homework you would know that abductees typically do NOT show symptoms of mental illness, at least none that we know of. Given that Strieber has passed a barrage of psychiatric tests, I find it improbable that he could telepathically infect his guests. I also notice you haven't said which mental illness these people have.

As for lying, that's also a stretcher. Abductees typically keep their experiences to themselves. If they're lying, who are they lying too? I should point out that all of the men involved in the Walton case have passed lie detector tests, some more than once. So for that matter has Strieber. I don't know what's happening to these people, but deception isn't it.

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A lot of mentally ill people can pass psychological tests? This is news to me. Which people? And you still haven't said which mental illness these people have, or how they can infect their spouses and friends.

Come on spiderguy. I'm not asking you to believe these people are being abducted. I'm not even sure I believe that. I'm just asking you to accept that these cases are as of yet unexplained.

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Bi-polar disorder doesn't cause hallucinations. I doubt very much a paranoid schizophrenic could pass as sane. And which mental illness are these abductees suffering from?

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The average person might fail to notice someone is schizophrenic, but I doubt very much professional psychiatrist would, let alone consistently.

You still haven't said which mental illness these people are suffering from.

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Sure, sometimes they can come across as sane, but ALL the time? You'd think at least some of these people would get diagnosed with something, but they never do.

I've already explained why I don't think sleep paralysis fits the bill. Too many of these experiences happen during the day when the subject if wide awake.

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But they weren't asleep at all, frequently abductees are wide awake.

I have read up on SP. Some SP sufferers sense a presence in the room, but few recall the whole alien abduction experience. Furthermore, few abductees to my knowledge have been diagnosed with SP. Sorry, SP just doesn't add up.

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Mental illness doesn't explain the Travis Walton case, but lying does. The reporter who originally broke the story ended up writing an expose on how the whole thing case was made up. And there were numerous inconsistencies from the start.

When Walton reappeared after his supposed abduction, he was picked up by his brother, Duane. Duane found no bruises, burns, or evidence of any physical injury except for a red mark on the inside of Travis's elbow. The results of a urine analysis showed no trace of drugs or acetone. After going without food for more days, the body begins to break down its own fat. The waste product of this is acetone, which is excreted in the urine. If Walton had been without food for several days, as he said he had, his urine should have shown large traces of acetone.

The Aerial Phenomena Research Organization announced a few days later that both Travis and Duane had passed a polygraph exam. But the test was flawed. Walton was allowed to dictate a number of the questions he was asked. Allowing the subject to dictate specific questions violates the basic principles of the test and invalidate the results. The machine operator was inexperienced, having been practicing only two years. This inexperience showed itself when he judged Walton's "No" answer to the question "Before November 5, 1975, were you a UFO buff?" to be truthful. Walton's answer directly contradicted information provided by his mother, brother Duane, and by Travis himself during an earlier psychological examination that revealed that he had been for years.

Biggest of all was the revelation that Travis Walton had taken an earlier lie detector test and failed miserably. This first test had been administered by John McCarthy, who with twenty years of experience was one of the most respected examiners in the state of Arizona. His conclusion: "Gross deception on behalf of the subject".

Why would they fake it? Back then The National Enquirer offered a maximum $100,000 prize for proof of extra-terrestrials and a TV-movie about Betty and Barney Hill had aired just two weeks prior to Walton's disappearance.

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Both of the arguments presented here raise very valid points; the skeptical view is relevant as far as the mental illness hypothesis is concerned, and the view of the believer is just as compelling with the usage of precedence to prove a point.

But if we're going to "go there", and bring up mental illness as a suspected cause of numeous abduction accounts that are well documented, the question must be asked - what are the odds that *all* people suffering from some mental illness which causes not only visual, auditory, but tactile hallucinations will experience virtually IDENTICAL experiences without any form of suggestion, hypnosis, or other dubious practices?

Think about it! The various ailments of the mind which could cause such vivid "hallucinations" have already been covered (schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, etc..), and that's fair enough - but if anyone tries to convince me that the thousands of people who have, after much internal debate, come forward with incredible stories of abductions are suffering from a mental illness that causes them to imagine experiences that are identical to that of complete strangers....well that's just silly.

As for the "shared psychosis" condition mentioned in an earlier post, in psychiatric circles this phenomenon is colloquially known as a "Folie à deux", and it is so rare that it's not mentioned in most mainstream psychology texts. Not only that, but in order to be diagnosed as suffering from a collective folie à deux, the sufferers must be living in close proximity to one another (meaning in the same home or some other situation like that.)It also bears mentioning that in any folie à deux, there is always a dominant sufferer who "spreads" their delusion to others, and once this dominant sufferer is removed from the situation, the other sufferers are magically cured of their psychosis.

As far as the highly overrated "sleep paralysis" hypothesis, I am no stranger to this very unsettling occurence and thus am well aware of the sense of impending doom and fear that can be instilled during an episode. That being said, I am at a loss as to how sleep paralysis may cause bruises, scars, and even burn marks of undetermined origin to appear on people's bodies overnight.

I feel that the arguments presented in this thread are coming from good intentioned people, but I am not so ignorant as to discredit thousands of people by using obscure psychiatric diagnoses to label them.

There is something amazing happening here - it's simply a matter of waking up and summoning up the courage to think beyond the confines of your own perspective of the world.

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Damn. Sweet Analysis man. That's an incredible breakdown.

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If only this had been worded better people might have taken you seriously.

Two wrongs don't make a left hand turn.

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Andre you're what I would call a "Fun-Nazi"

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I too have had fear of these "visitors" and it is because of this movie (and Whitley Strieber's novel) that make me paranoid about these things. Although I was a kid, the lingering image of that pear-shaped, big, blacked eyed face has been burnt into me. Everytime I see "them" on the X-Files or in pictures scares the sh*t out of me. I'm embarassed at how I was traumatized by the increadibly bad creature effects (look at the greys themselves) in the film. I read other posts that dismiss this as the product of the human psyche. What is real is up to us. What they look like embodies what the person viewing it fears the most. You are not crazy and you follow a looong tradition of people throughout the ages who have sensed or felt the presence of "mythical" beings (angels, demons, fairies, gremlins, etc.) Your fear is also a testament to the power of an image, that it can terrify and mesmerize you. It does that to me too.

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I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE! I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AFRAID OF ALIENS, AND PEOPLE LAUGH OR LOOK AT ME STRANGE AND SAY THEY ARE NOT REAL.....BUT HOW DO THEY KNOW THAT?? EVERY TIME I SAW ONE MY HEART WOULD START RACING AND I WANT TO CRY! I'M 18 AND I AM NOT COMPLETLY OVER MY PHOBIA.. BUT IT'S NOT THAT SERIOUS.

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Like others have stated, as well as you... I too, do have a love/hate relationship with grays. I start getting teary-eyed when talking about the matter, i've had dreams, that when I've awoken, I've had a burnt image of a gray in my head, and I could barely move from being so scared. I have an immense fascination with them, like I have watched EVERY show on television about them, and have done papers, and research on the internet and such; and yet, at the same time it creeps me out more than almost anything else, personal experiences, and family experiences alike that I'd rather not talk about.

Like someone else has stated, I saw Fire in the Sky around the age of 7, and freaked lol, but that was just a scary movie in general. Yet, i watched it again in daylight, when I was around 13, and it was still pretty freaking scary for me. I've seen Taken, which scared the daylights out of me for the first two times I saw the series.

I have so much proposals to suggest extraterrestrials are here, that I cannot fathom beginning to start typing it all down - being it's 1AM. But I know the feeling a lot of you have. I've read the Communion book, as well. Haven't seen the movie, didn't even know there was until now, which I'm going to watch it asap. I believe this guy 100%.

You know, there's a difference of what you want to believe, and what you don't want to believe. Then there's your true opinion, whether you're bias, or you want to find the truth. I do want to believe (as the X-Files saying, goes), however I lean towards them being real because of everything I've seen about it. It's just overwhelming. I think it's a big part of humanity in a way.



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jesus...i am so scared of that, since i was very young. i remember this movie until today...and i do have problems sleeping sometimes

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Barteltja,

You're story is very similar to my own. I am *NOT* claiming that I have been abducted, however I have had a great fear of 'greys' (as you call them) since I was a small child. Sleeping under the sheets with the light on, afraid to get up to find a toilet, etc. were very routine occurances for me for a very long time. I have gotten better about my fears, but now I also have a wife and 5 animals to keep me company whenever I get ..... scared.

Another thing of particular interest about my own issues is that I suffer from what my doctor calls sleep paralysis. Sometimes often, sometimes not, triggered when I sleep on my back, my eyes will open. I am completely frozen and hallucinate. Some stuff I see is really there - other stuff isn't. My wife, before we were married caught me yelling in a trance once - I thought her face, illuminated by the moonlight, was one of the little buggers. The only thing that woke me up that time was my intesified yelling.

Anyhow it's very interesting to find people that have experienced the same thing. I must admit while the 'greys' scare me *beep* I seek out any information on them I can get. I am especially interested in pictures that abductees have drawn. Whether or not this is a fabricated fear created by man, it is real enough and has sure done a good job of freaking me out and intriguing me over the years. My greatest dream / nightmare is actually meeting one of the guys face to face one day - though I doubt it will happen :(

Good luck in your adventures,
Ben

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You all believe on what YOU want to believe. Enough said.

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I think the reality of these cases is often overshadowed by the media hype, and band wagon mentality. There are so many people who claim to have been abducted in recent years, that I think a great many are simply psychologically manifested, due to media influence in books/tv/film/etc.

However, I do believe that as a result, these have undermined the genuinely unusual and unexplainable cases. It's far too easy for people to say "Oh, there's no proof, so it's all in their minds" I've seen programs and read books where psychologists have put it ALL down to sleep paralysis, or ball lightning, or other atmospheric disturbances. Often to the point where from a betting point of view the Alien Abduction theory would probably be more likely! The biggest flaw in all of the sceptics cases, is that they explain only a percentage, and conveniently ignore the difficult examples.

Also, programs like the x-files, and the numerous other TV programs that have cashed in on the 'grey' phenomena have undermined its credibility.

Yet what of all those stories from two or more people who saw things together, and only later (and often separately) corroborate each others stories? Those who had abduction stories, only to later discover reports from elsewhere of lights in the sky, or sightings that happened at the same time? What about the famous incidents long before Alien Abduction became popular mythology? Such as Betty and Barny Hill, and the many like them? The numerous straight forward UFO sightings by often credible individuals who have everything to lose by saying what they saw? Cases that make no sense if you put it all down to media induced psychological hallucination or sleep paralysis...

Are they straight forward aliens coming in space-ships? One of our big problems, which aids the sceptics, is our need to pin things down to a tangible reality we can grasp. However in truth, we understand so little about the universe, that they could easily be something totally removed from our understanding. Quantum physics/string theory/etc. all help to make us realise that there may be far more to our universe and reality than we could ever perceive.

I think it's too easy to dismiss. If you read anything on psychology or the workings of the human mind, you very quickly realise just how tenuous and limited our grasp on reality is. Our own memory often taints and shapes our perception of past events, especially under hypnosis, making it often ambiguous enough for sceptics to dismiss, but I think this is a big mistake.

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Well yes Andre Exactly ..that is the basis of every relion now isnt it? Now U may ask what is the basis for these religions, what would qualify to be seen as "gods". If u are interested in pursuing that. There is a phenomenal amount of ancient texts, tablets, all thousands of years pre birth of christ, that speak of "those that come from the heavens" form several cultures on the 4 corners of the world.

I do think to some xtent taht the abduction stories of today..are a result of parroting the images that are presented in x-files episodes or speilberg films or whatnot. To get sattention or empathyor whatnot. However human history is littered with refrences, cave drawings, rennaicence era paintings, tablets, tombs and so forth taht cant be dismissed so flippantly.


have a nice day

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Well, if you're crazy that makes at least two of us. Everytime I see pictures of greys all I can think of are demonic entities (which is what I think aliens truly are). It's quite unnerving. I also have a similar problem with zombies (which is a little more embarassing to admit). I blame my parents... you have your "churchy" mother talking about John 5:28-29 and your "heathen" father making you watch "night of the living dead" at age three and you put the two together and 21 years later you can't look down the basement stairway at night when there's no one else in the house without soiling yourself. The sick thing is, it's like I'm strangely attracted to the things I'm afraid of most. I'll watch movies like "Fire in the Sky" and "Zombi 2" and all the while, unable to look away, I think "Why oh why do I do this to myself?" Does anyone else have an irrational fear of zombies from time to time like me?

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snowboozer, my wife is annoyingly afraid of zombies. I don't get it all, but who am I to judge? Greys scare the *beep* out of me.

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Ok, this is gettin stupid now

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Wow...it sounds lame & cliche, but I write this as I am watching communion: It was a load off to hear a lot of you have had this deep fear of the greys (or well-known image of big-headed skinny alien with black eyes)...

I can remember the exact moment I got freaked out initially. I was 5 yrs old & I went into my parent's bedroom. On the nightstand was a copy of the book, communion. I remember staring at the cover (feat.a giant sized pic of a grey) for probably 2 mins. Almost frozen with fear. I didn't even know what that illustration was, but it terrified me.

I had been seriously wigged out by them until I was 17-18. Having nightmares even. Anytime a movie would come on or I'd see a pic, etc. I would become very uncomfortable. I'm 23 now & the idea/images of them don't really bug me at all. As if I grew out of it.

I think the point of just being afriad of the unknown is somewhat valid, but so is the point that you can't prove/disprove they exist. I think now, if I saw one I'd still kinda wig out. Something about mind control I think. You can fight off a human attacker with fists, a gun...whatever. But something that can control your mind...you are helpless.

if i ever do tango with a grey i'll probably try to punch 'em in the neck.

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That brings me to this question: Was the image of the "grey" alien created (maybe by worldwide governmental agencies) for mind-control/mind-suggestion purposes? I´m not a supporter of this theory, but it certainly makes you think. Maybe somekind of human-guinea experiment.

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egh.

Personally, I have delt with this traumatic fear of "greys" (i hate that term) since i was a little kid. It goes back to E.T. for me...the site of Elliot going out into the feild with the flashlight and finding some screaming alien scared the *beep* out of me. That night I was getting into bed and had a glass of water. Some of it dribbled onto the floor and as i stepped in it on my climb into bed, i was convinced there was an alien under my bed trying to grab me. Years later I saw Communion on TV. The site of the alien peeking around the cabinet really affected me...as well as the stories from the support group he visits and the images of his abductions. I read several UFO books in the elementary school library. Next I saw Fire in the Sky in the theater with my family. I got up to leave the theater during the abduction sequence...but i couldn't help but stand at the back of the theater and watch in morbid fascination. Every night during my childhood I would look out the window before sleep to make sure there was nothing in the sky. For a few years if I got too scared I'd go out and sleep with our big pet dog or in my parents floor. The thought of them coming into my room in the dark with me paralyzed to do anything; having to watch them take me and experiment on me and then bring me back with my memory wiped only to relive it in horrible flashbacks was my worst nightmare. It's worse than rape, worse than any violent crime that you can react to, because you're completely helpless.

So years later at the age of 24; after movies, abduction books, x-files, that show sightings...i'm quasi over it. I can still revert back into that mindset, but I'm more fascinated as to WHY that particular image is so traumatic. Why did i have this ridiculous fear for so long that traumatized me and so affected me? Is it because unlike zombies it's perpetuated by the media i.e. other freaks who want so badly to believe they'll let their minds create whatever they want in order to justify their obsession?

I also wonder why I was so eager to learn/see more about/of something that was so traumatizing to me...even recently I forced myself to rewatch parts of Fire in the Sky on youtube.com. Is that natural?

I don't know if aliens exist, but it's a fundamental fear/fascination with the human psyche...are we alone? if we aren't alone...should we be afraid? what do they want with us? paranoia, obession, etc. I don't necessarily think it's healthy to perpetuate the fear as it does nothing but keep people from actually living.

I've visited the Fire in the Sky board and this one, and seen that it's FILLED with people that have the same traumatic fears/obsessions, all linked to the same events (media)...it seems they did a good job of horrifying a lot of kids...so here's my question on that thought...did THE DESCENT scare the living *beep* out of anyone else...because I couldn't function for atleast two days afterwards (sure i'd watched Cape Fear for the first time before going) but come on now...that has to be the movie to *beep* up a new generation.

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i was also quite afraid of those damned, greys, and so were a bunch of friends of mine...

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At 22 years old I am still fascinated by Aliens, Mysticism, and Cryptozoology. I have been reading and been read this material from a very young age; partially due to my father. Around the age of 13 or so I used to scare myself just by reading accounts of Abductions, so much so that I would avoid sleeping close to windows out of fear that "grey"s would abduct me through the window or watch me.[However I still read the material with gusto (stupid huh?)] The question you pose is are we/am I still scared? Not as I was back then, but I am still fascinated. I must also admit that I still do my research from time to time and there are still times that I scare myself. I have not had the blood curddeling fear I had then for almost 10 years. Unless I am actually abducted I will most likely never fear "them" as I did either.

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I have to differ on Andre's idea that the Grey are just a projection of the psyche. I know for a fact (not believe) that the Greys are an external entity, since I've been interacting with them for most of my life, and have had family members witness some of the events.

Abductees did not get the vissage of the Greys from the media, rather it was the other way around. Stories of mythical creatures from various cultures give various physical descriptions (the works of Jacques Vallee explores this), so at some point sci-fi writers in the early 20th centruy picked up the same caracture in their heads, it would be interesting to see the earliest instance of this in the modern media.

I've often wondered what the percentage of people who are creeped out by images of the Greys are, in terms of abductees vs people who are just getting a form of 'primal fear' of some sort.

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These fears are retarded. I think there definately are extraterrestrials, however if they have the technological capability to reach us and their intentions are malicious we would be done for... Therefore, if these visitations are real, then I believe they are benign.

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The fear isn't borne from some sense of them being "evil", rather it's a psychological reaction that comes from meeting a mind that evolved as part of a different reality. It's not an easy thing to explain in just a few sentences... perhaps I should write a book on the subject...

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When I was a kid I use to read books on UFOs, Aliens and etc.
I remember as many as you have and the OP mentioned a haunting fear of Greys for an unexplained or suggestive reason.

I would have dreams of them living in my attic, closets, forests around my house coming out at night while I was asleep and etc.

While I can agree there may be internal mechanisms in the human brain via DMT, melatonin, sleep paralysis or reaction to electromagnetic anomalies may cause these cases of abduction it goes without saying that these fears are well founded in individuals who present themselves as sufferers of the fear.

However, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and I am not convinced that any alien life has visited mankind. It would be nice if there were well documented and cataloged events which unquestionably answer extraterrestrial visitation but for the time being I am a skeptic.

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This thread is amazing. I thought I was the only person who was completely transfixed by the image on the cover of the Communion book. I read Communion in high school when I was 17 at the suggestion of a friend. I stopped reading the book several times because it was so unsettling--yet I couldn't help but finish it. I would make sure I put the book face down just so I would not have to stare into those cold black eyes. Whoever did the cover is quite an artist and there is something in the alien's face that inspires a primal fear.

After finishing Communion the book, I watched Close Encounters of the Third Kind and then saw Communion the movie. For a couple of months, I would lie awake at night waiting to be abducted. When my brother came into my room while I was sleeping, I often awoke with a start and he would say sarcastically that he was not an alien. I became convinced that I had already been abducted once before and had suppressed the memories; I even found unexplained scars on my body that might have been from alien experiments. Well, I'm 31 years old and I'm over all that now--mostly.

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Yes I too was scared of Aliens (mostly the Grays) as a child, its funny when your friends are scared of Zombies or monsters but you are scared of 4ft, skinny, pale things with big black eyes. But lifes about being different.

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Hey folks

If this was all real, then how come there isn't any actual photos somewhere on the internet?

I'm one of the people who quiver over these greys, its affected my sleep and made me very anxious at night, worrying over the slightest noise, but you gotta think, is it really real?

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From a mysterious skin-kind of explanation, werent you abused by your hunky moustached baseball coach? That would explain it all.

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nah cus i'm not a yank you beanhead.

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