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Why do people not like Ennio Morricone's score?


I think it's amazing. One of his best to be quite honest. Everyone seems to talk about how dreadful it is. I just want people's opinions on WHY they think its so bad.

Do people expect too much from Morricone when they watch the films he composes and are let down if it isn't absolute gold. You can't expect "Gabriel's Ode" or "Ecstasy of Gold" every time. Just saying


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It's good. I watched this last night and thinking about it, it stands out. Ennio's scores usually do tho

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It's a mystery to me too. I can only assume it's because people want to hear the same things over and over again.

The music is tremendous in my opinion.

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I love the score. Very memorable.

All this machine does is swim, and eat, and make little sharks. -- Matt Hooper, JAWS

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It's the main reason to watch this movie.

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Definitely one of his worst scores. Although I'm not sure if it was Morricones fault or De Palmas. I like certain moments but overall it's way to "Cheery" for the type of film it is.

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but overall it's way to "Cheery" for the type of film it is


What type of film is it? I can't think of any cue in the entire film which is "cheery" either on its own or in the context of the fil,. Can you give and example?

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It's not an Adventure Film, yet much of the score feels that way. When they didn't use Period Music or the theme from the opening, it was awful. The attack on the Bridge is terrible.

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That was a good way to describe it.

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So what you're saying is because Morricone didn't do what everyone else would have done, it's awful and you'd rather have someone phone in a very generalized score just because it's more "period authentic."

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No, I'm saying it sucked. I love Morricone, he has created some of my favorite scores in Cinema... But the way his score Enhances a film like 'The Thing', it just doesn't fit in this film. What does "Everyone else" have to do with him or this film? It didn't work and many people feel the same.

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But it is an adventure film in a way. It's and action/gangster film. The movie is clearly alluding to a romantic notion of the prohibition era as a sort of wild mid west period where morals and justice were in mixed up state. It prompted gung-ho operations, violence and the deaths of innocents, all because people were denied having a drink.

I guess some folk are just OCD about "proper" stuff. Whatever they think that is.

What do you mean by period music in this scene anyway? What like a Louis Armtsrong record or something playing?


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"Proper Stuff"??? No, I just think a film in which we see people bashed to death, multiple gun fights, kids blown to bits etc, loses its luster when the score DOESN'T FIT the film we are watching. Romanticized views of an era are fine, that's no the issue I have. My issue is simple... A film is made of many elements and music(Or lack thereof) is a Key Component in that process. The "Cheery" sound I brought up is the easiest way to describe it. It takes me out of the story. I go from watching a film about Bootlegging, the Mob and Police to a weird film that uses a score that easily could've been in 'City Slickers' and it harms the feel and/or atmosphere of the film. Period music helps draw the audience into the time frame. That, when used in this film, was done pretty well. It doesn't have to be an exact science, just needs to be consistent. What we get here is a usual DePalma flaw... Sometimes he's not sure what exactly he wants a film to say.

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that uses a score that easily could've been in 'City Slickers'


You are exaggerating. That music would not fit into City Slickers and I think you know that.

, kids blown to bits


I'm sorry but the part were the kid is blown up comes when period music is playing in the drug store and the music cuts out immediately when the bomb goes off. What the fudge are you talking about? That there should be no music that you feel is inappropriate to that particular image at any other point of the movie where the context is completely different.

You just don't like the music. Well shoot! Life is weird.

The bridge scene is full of ironies.

De Palma was not forced to use the music he used. If he didn't want there to be an ironically heroic and adventurous cue there he could have commissioned or dubbed something else in there.

I don't know what consistency you're talking about except possibly consistency with whatever preconceived notions of what kind of movie De Palma was making instead of what it is.

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You literally proved my point with the kid getting blown up... You DO realize that, correct? That scene WORKED. Just as the opening scene in the Barber Chair works. Don't get me wrong, moments are fantastic, others are horrendous. It's inconsistency is what dooms it. I watched City Slickers the other day, it's EXACTLY the type of music used in certain scenes. That's not an exaggeration. DePalma did it in Scarface and Carlitos Way as well. It's a common knock (Of Many) with his style.

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You DO realize that, correct? That scene WORKED. Just as the opening scene in the Barber Chair works.


And the bridge scene is an entirely different scene. It is setting up the ham-fisted adventurous side of their crusade which is subsequently offset by the terrifying, messy consequences of the reprisals from their opponents. Wallace's death even has that ritualistic sacrifice like in a cowboys/Indians picture.

So what you're saying is that there is De Palma's style and then there's doing it properly which means conservatively scoring within narrow paramaters of genre and "taste".

So many options!

when the score DOESN'T FIT the film we are watching.


You are watching a Brian De Palma film.

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Look you get a few trolls posting about not liking the music and you think it is the universal opinion.
It's not!

The music made the movie great.

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Because people don't like a musical score you like does not make them trolls. Jesus, people have opinions - trolling is a completely different thing. Look it up.

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That's a surprise to me, given how hard it is to find the complete album from La-La Land Records. I just bought an unopened copy for almost fifty bucks.

I think its a pretty great score, passionate, sinister and rousing in all the right places.

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The score is absolute trash and over the top cheese; had anyone else scored this film it would have been a 9/10.

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Well, that's your opinion and I will respectfully disagree with it.

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I thought it was great and kept up the tempo of the movie.

Swing away, Merrill....Merrill, swing away...

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