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"There are penalties when a woman lies"


I love this movie - first saw it in the 80s. However, I recently saw it on TV and the part where Westley raises his hand to hit Buttercup jarred me. I didn't remember that part from before, but it bothered me. I suppose it was balanced when Buttercup pushed Westley down the hill, but Westley's initial action felt out of place. Anybody else bothered by that?

Otherwise, great movie!

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I honestly don't remember this at all and I've seen it several times.. if it's in the book it's hard to deny.

I definitely think that's out of place

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All of that was part of his Pirate Roberts act. He didn't want her to know that he's Westley. That was one of a few reasons why he was so nasty to her in the beginning.

This.....

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I just watched this and enjoyed it, but this moment also was jarring to me. Also I didn't care for the moral that true love is broken if you move on. Though that was discarded by the princess when she said "I thought you died" and it was left off there.

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This was a VERY important part of the movie.
He was in "character" of "The dread Pirate Roberts" who was feared by both men and women and he did this action to instill fear into her because needed her to be afraid. His goal the whole time was to make her "Not afraid of the "Dread Pirate Roberts" and not afraid to confess her love for Westley and push the pirate down a steep hill. He wanted to see if the most feared man of the 7 seas would stand in her way of true love and he didn't.

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Westly's initial reaction was in response to what he perceived to be her lie. She was was calling someone her greatest love but he didn't believe her because she moved on to the prince whereas he spent these years educating himself and trying to become a man he felt was worthy of her.

I voted for Frenchie and Dia like a sex donkey on Xanax.

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She thought he was dead, It has been 5 years how long did he expect her to morn?
If he truly loved her he would have wanted her to be happy even if that meant marrying another man. BUT, she wasn't happy marrying Humperdinck. Kind of just going through the motions and Wesley knew this.

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I've seen this movie numerous times. I grew up with it. But, it wasn't until I saw it with a female friend that I noticed that it's kind of a horrible portrayal of women! It treats Buttercup terribly and is generally really cliche about females.

Check out our thoughts (especially HER thoughts) here: https://youtu.be/Ldmi1UeMKd0

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He was pretending to be the Dread Pirate Roberts!! The pirate who is literally known for taking no survivors!

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I am shocked to hear that Westley slaps Buttercup in the book! It is far from how I have imagined it, but now I understand what the chief female's arrogance is based on. The movie's radical differences from the novel are highly welcome. In the film, Westley would never hit Buttercup. He only masquerades as a threatening man to get the young woman away from her captor, and continues the act because Humperdinck is nearby. Westley cannot risk Buttercup making an emotional scene over a romantic reunion before they are in a safe place, and of course wants a chance to anonymously gain insight on his beloved's current life.

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In the film, Westley would never hit Buttercup.


I think that's a good point, he didn't actually hit her. It would have been much more jarring if he did.

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Its not a big deal. Heck that treatment would cure modern society of 3rd age feminism pretty quick. Shouldn't be the first option but there needs to be a level of control otherwise women become too self-entitled. Look at all the crap that has happened when they were granted power.



In case you were wondering...definitely trolling. Yeah, it was the times but it wasn't the worst thing he could have done given the circumstance. If a slap is so horrible you must live under your bed.



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