Joan + Bernie slept together???

i disagree, i very much doubt it was bernie.
although when danny and debbie broke up and bernie and joan have a drink at mothers she kind of gives him this cheesy smile. that was quite interesting.
then when he sees her at baseball she gives him cold shoulder again.

Ahh, interesting take. If Joan wasn't such a bitter feminazi with hatred for all men due to her own insecurity and feelings of inadequacy particularly compared to Debbie, I would put more stock in this theory, because it would make sense why she had immediate disdain for Bernie. However since she is such a biaatch to Danny as well (well, pretty much every man in the movie as well), I think it may just be a Joan thing. But hey, it's possible? I wonder if there's any reference in the script to this being Bernie?

I think that "really big guy" in Joan's bed was Bernie. Turn up the volume at the end of the scene--you hear the guy in the bedroom stumble and let out a grunt, and it sounds like Jim Belushi.

The reason she is mad at him when he meets her at the bar is because as soon as her and Debbie get there he comes on to Debbie assuming that's who he's to be fixed up with and completely ignores Joan ("Has anyone ever told you you're a very attractive woman? HUH!?!). Joan is clearly annoyed and feeling dismissed so decides to leave.

Besides, the night before Joan leaves Mother's early to go to another bar whereby Bernie most likely stayed at Mother's since that was his home-base.

Too much evidence in the opposite direction for him to have been the BIG guy in her bed. Besides, Belushi wasn't THAT big. I pictured it to be more of a 250lb. 6'3 guy.

That being said, it wouldn't surprise me if he did nail her towards the end after her smiling at him in the bar....then not wanting to talk to him at the softball game shortly after.

its possible they hooked up after the Mother's last call scene when they toast to Dan and Debbie's breakup , that scene leaves you in doubt but at the very end in Grant Park Joan is still disgusted by Bernie's advances so its highly unlikely that anything happened.

Just to add to the consipiracy...

After the scene with Joan and Debbie discussing the "really big guy", there is a cut to a Danny/Bernie scene where Bernie discusses being with a girl with a bid that was sending "static electricity right to my nuts".

I'm thinking that was Joan. All of the confrontations between the two afterwards build from that one night stand.


"The Dude Abides"

ABSOLUTELY!!! I have been proposing that theory to anyone who has seen the movie. Some of the clues:

When the "big guy" in the bedroom falls off the bed, he let's out a grunt that sounds like Belushi.

As soon as they go from the "morning after" scene in Joan and Debbie's apartment and Joan finsishes telling Debbie about the really big, really cute guy, they immediately shoot to Litko talking about a fur-lined bed, etc.

When Joan and Litko see each other at the bar the next night she has this look of disgust like "oh my god, you don't even remember me..."

That's about all of the evidence I need. After all, this isn't a court of law.

This might sound strange, but there's a chance that it is Jim Belushi in her bed, but that he isn't Bernie. My point being that they needed someone to be in the bed, but didn't want to pay another actor for the part, so in troops Jim, throws a sheet over himself, grunts twice and he's out of there. It's a trick that would work once in the theater, but but doesn't hold up in these video "rewind it and watch it twenty times" days.

Just my .02