The ECT scene was the scariest in this
When she is institutionalised. What a terrifying ordeal for a kids film.
Do you have any talents?
Well, I'm an Alcoholic.
When she is institutionalised. What a terrifying ordeal for a kids film.
Do you have any talents?
Well, I'm an Alcoholic.
One of my favorite scenes in the movie.
Don't eva let nobody tell you you ain't strong enough
Same for me. I love the yelling done by the patients "who've been damaged and locked in the cellar." Got to wonder what things look like down there. If we thought the orderly wheeling Dorothy around looked creepy, imagine those working in the cellar?
We've met before, haven't we?
Agreed, it's absolutely horrifying. I find it very scary the way, in our not too distant past, we used to mess around with people's brains when we barely had in inkling of what we were doing. Labotomies, ECT... it's so dark and horrifying. This scene really scares me. The tension is done very well: "Ready?" "Ready, Doctor", with the close up of this big headphone type things with the loud crackling and buzzing coming from them. All I can say is thank goodness there was a power cut.
shareAs weird as it sounds though if ppl had not done all that experimenting we might not have the break-throughs we have today.
Just because we lose today's battle doesn't mean we've lost tommorow's war.
ECT is still done to this day. I knew a woman...well, really I met her in a hospital waiting room a few times, and she said ECT cured her depression. She said she was too depressed to function and that ECT was like a controlled seizure that fixed her brain. It's considered a medical procedure instead of a psychiatric treatment. I know that much because the woman was on the same floor as me and I was there for medical testing for my liver. It sounded kind of scary. She said it temporarily messed up her memory and she would forget who her family was for a few hours afterwards.
shareThe scariest thing about this is that it was NO FANTASY.
Scenes like this probably DID play out in those times. And kids were probably experimented on because their caretakers had no idea what to do if they were "acting out" or something along those lines. And they possibly DIED after being abandoned at a creepy hospital.
Eff me, that is why the entire opening 20 minutes is scary, creepy, depressing. Outside of the fantasy element of Ozma's appearance, it just seems too real. Even the performances are completely convincing. I hate it. but I love that Disney has the balls to commit it to film, something nobody could really say about that company for the most part.
I never thought of that. On the somewhat positive side, at least Dorothy didn't get her brains fried.
Don't eva let nobody tell you you ain't strong enough
Didn't she? I'm in two minds about that now personally after reading the article at http://vigilantcitizen.com/moviesandtv/return-oz-creepy-disney-movie-blatantly-mind-control/ QUite unsure now. Will have to watch it again with that in mind.
shareThe whole part of the institutionalized terrifying to the bone. I am actually find it as the most scariest part in the movie. I read a lot about mental institutions than and today, just imagine what a patient goes through there, especially a sane child like Dorothy. I find the scene when she alone in the cell as the most terrifying.
shareSeeing that happen to sweet Dorothy of all people was a huge turn-off for me in that film.
sharePoor Dorothy :(
She didn't deserve that for sure.
And still it's the same Dorothy we know and love, she shows courage in front of the horror, and even find time to care and protect her friends.
Well, the turn-offs didn't stop from there. I mean, they "kill off" all her friends in Oz, so all our favorites are not there (common sequel sin), give her new friends nobody liked (common sequel sin), and there were a host of other disturbing things I saw that made me dislike it a lot.
shareIt's true, many waited to seen Dorothy friends, maybe this's the main reason why the rating is not 7 or up. On other end, it's not a sequel to Wizard of OZ, although many think it is. It's almost the complete opposite from the first movie.
From the comment about the movies, I identified two types of response:
(1) People who didn't love the darker version of OZ.
(2) People who love the darkness and see this movie as some kind of a cult movie.
From what I understand both people loves The Wizard of Oz (1939) more or less equally.
Ironically, it's based on Baum's actual book sequel, though I'm not sure his version was this dark.
shareThat's the reason I avoided watching this film for 39 years. I expected that scene to be MUCH worse! Somehow I got the idea it involved needles and avoided it like the plague!
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