I know it's sci fi / thriller-ish but for some reason I get this archetypal slasher / horror vibe. I don't mean that in a bad way but it's effective because even though we're foretold the knowledge of the bad guys nature and intentions; his invincibility is almost ethereal and his unnatural endurance feels omniscient in an almost mystical / supernatural way. if that makes sense.
James Cameron really gives you that feeling of this quasi-omniscience of fighting the unknown. we never see the real bad boy [Skynet] and the faceless mirage makes the movie even more horrifying.
anyone else think this movie has very Horror-ish elements?
There's no doubt about that. I remember thinking it was Halloween with a robot when I first saw it. Even better, if you can find a copy, check out "Tag: The Assassination Game" with Linda Hamilton.
I know it's sci fi / thriller-ish but for some reason I get this archetypal slasher / horror vibe. I don't mean that in a bad way but it's effective because even though we're foretold the knowledge of the bad guys nature and intentions; his invincibility is almost ethereal and his unnatural endurance feels omniscient in an almost mystical / supernatural way. if that makes sense.
James Cameron really gives you that feeling of this quasi-omniscience of fighting the unknown. we never see the real bad boy [Skynet] and the faceless mirage makes the movie even more horrifying.
anyone else think this movie has very Horror-ish elements?
I like the way you described it there.
Ive always considered T1 best as its a SF Horror film first and foremost(like Alien) with the sequel more of the action genre but obviously still retaining the originals Horror premise but action-ifying it (like Aliens) - and then the sequels T345 really don't feel the same as the nightmarish original at all
T1 is basically Halloween with a SF/timetravel twist and was obviously heavily influenced by the stalk slasher movies of the late 70s/early 80s (Halloween, Friday13th, Texas Chainsaw) except with an unstoppable cyborg (in a similar way to the first Alien was stalkNslash with an alien) in the form of a huge scary looking german bodybuilder (the way Arnold looked back then was very frightening and totally believable in that you could imagine the machine underneath.. as scary as any Freddy, Jason, Michael, Alien etc). and it was influenced by 70s/80s post-apocalyptic genre (The Road Warrior, Day After etc) and the 70s/80s dark SF horror/thriller/chiller 'scientific' movies (Westworld, Alien, Saturn3, Blade Runner, Carpenters movies, Cronenbergs movies) before everything went action. (although at the same time T1 was one of the movies that contributed to the action genre taking off the way it did)
The fact it was an 18 in the uk at the cin/vhs made it feel more of the horror genre (like the slasher films and Alien etc) than the sequels (T2 was a 15) however T1 was eventually recertified to 15 on dvd (probably because of the more action orientated 15 rated sequel)
T1 has a feel of a doomed world that only very few people know about. i really like the creepy/eerie/mysterious near 'urban legend' atmosphere (with the story expertly unravelling to reveal the unthinkable/impossible).... but not so much when they opened it up so more know about everything as happened to varying degrees in the sequels (same for Alien, Matrix, Blade, Highlander etc)
In some ways I wish Cameron had just made T1 and it would've been this SF horror classic, no action movie sequels diluting the horror of the original (also just the one timeline circular paradox, as opposed to changing alternate timelines with multiple terminators)
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This film has a very strong and noticeable horror element. Especially when considering the fact that it follows the basic structure/tropes of a slasher film, which without the time travel/robot thing is all this film really is. A seemingly indestructible and/or supernatural-like villain stalking and picking off female victims one by one along with many other people before being defeated in a climactic struggle by the sole female survivor/protagonist, who later becomes traumatized by her experience, as we clearly see in T2. If you can't see these facts, you have a very serious case of denial going on.
Yeah I too always found the first movie kinda horrifying, especially when I saw it as a kid. And T2 definitely oriented the franchise toward an action SF film.
I don't know... There was always something that really didn't work for me with T3. The movie seems empty and like totally without any ambiance.
I know that most people consider that installment decent and like the last "good" Terminator movie but everytime I personally disagree. I can't even say that I enjoyed it...
Nothing after T2 is canon… but I have a soft spot for T3, it’s a piece of shit but it’s also a fun horror comedy B-movie with some great effects.
Interesting point about T3 having no ambience. T2 has incredible mood with its steely visuals and music, T3 is just a generic warm palate like a rom-com, with no memorable music. It’s throwaway trash like everything that came after T2.