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Surprised no one has asked this before. Was Tina Freddy's first victim?


If so, what took him so long to 'return' after being incinerated in his boiler room in the 60s. I'm assuming the child murders took place around '68 or '69 considering the age of Nancy and her parents.

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She had to be, right?

I always assumed he attacked at that time because he was using the previous years to accumulate enough power to pull off dream travelling. Kind of like Pennywise needing a certain amount of years to recharge. I also thought it had something to do with the absenteeism of the parents. It seems like Nancy was the only teen whose parents paid any attention to her, and even then, her dad worked a lot and her mother was an alcoholic.

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That's what I was thinking as well.

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It's hard to know for sure. 80s horror, though entertaining, was very loose when it came to plot. You weren't supposed to look too deep, you were just supposed to enjoy the spectacle.

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It's hard to know for sure. 80s horror, though entertaining, was very loose when it came to plot. You weren't supposed to look too deep, you were just supposed to enjoy the spectacle.


Now that you say this, I would think it applies to pretty much anything in the 80s and 90s. It didn't have to make complete sense back then or have perfect continuity.

Watching some of the old classics with my current critical eye (mostly due to internet discussion), I find I have the same reaction.

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Yeah, you're right. The 80s was pretty experimental, so perfect continuity wasn't it's aim.

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What the hell are you talking about?

What are these numerous example of loose narrative you are referring to?

In the 80s and 90s movies were more coherent than today.

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Stories were much simpler and easy to follow, but they also had a lot of loose ends that required you not to look too closely.

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Like?

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Maybe he/she is referring to the fact that unless you start from the first movie you'd be lost on who Freddy or the other characters are and wouldn't be able to follow the story as well. I mean if you haven't seen the first one and started with the 3rd one, you wouldn't get the significance of Nancy's character and what she's been through. Same with Part 4. Unless you watched Part 3 you don't know who the characters at the beginning of it are. And so on and so forth. I suppose with Freddy's Dead it doesn't matter since the other characters from the past movies aren't mentioned and they do go into Freddy's back story in it.

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Aside from the ones in this movie and every movie within the Freddy franchise, here's a whole list:

https://www.thethings.com/20-major-plot-holes-80s-horror-movies-no-one-noticed/

I mean, just look at Nightmare on Elm Street. What was Freddy's deal? He wanted revenge on the adults who killed him by killing their kids. But like I already mentioned, these parents weren't that involved in their kids' lives and were barely shown in the film. And then, at the end, when he kills Nancy's mother, it totally underwrites his whole MO. So his revenge plan didn't make much sense.

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I did question that as well. If he was a child murderer in the real world, why didn't he kill children in the dream world? I know the answer to that, but it was something that I always found weird.

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I think it was because he was more or less getting even with the people who ended his earthly life. Shows what a sick and twisted soul he really was (even in death). Freddy or the devil in Angel Heart are not people I would want coming after me. I mean in this film (and in the second), Freddy was extremely creepy.

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I understand that, but if he really preferred killing children, he could have killed them when they were still children. I understand that children are mostly off limits to die in horror movies, and I don't think many people would have watched that movie.

The one thing I thought the horrible remake did that made a little more sense, was to narrow the victim field down to the families of one preschool class.

All this being said, I do agree with Wint3rFir3's theory that it just took Freddy that long to get the power to come after them, and that we shouldn't look too deep.

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this doesn't answer the question because it doesn't actually make it into the film, but i read that some of the main teens in the original film were supposed to have older siblings that died before them as victims to kruegar.

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I read that too. I think it was good that they left that bit out though. It makes Freddy all the more menacing and creepy. It wasn't until I watched this again three weeks ao after so many years (haven't watched since '96 when I was nineteen years old) that I actually appreciated how creepy it was.

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I don’t have an exact answer but this deleted scene explains why Freddy targeted those he killed.

https://youtu.be/lS_yKhfSITk

I see someone mentioned that above.

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He had to wait until the kids were teenagers because the MPAA wont let him kill children

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