Spacing Guild
I just saw this for the 1st time:
So the Spacing Guild caused space travel by farting/pooping at space to make it warp?
No. That gas you're looking at is a gaseous, highly concentrated form of spice melange, the refined version of Spice that's used to enhance the human mind and extend life.
The Navigator you saw in the opening scene is a mutated human, whose brain has been enhanced by Spice (in the form of the spice gas), as well as selective breeding of humans over the past 8,000 years, and training to become a human computer, or a Mentat. Guild Navigators use their minds to not only calculate two points in 3-dimensional space, but they have a highly sophisticated way of teleporting massive spacecraft across vast distances in space. And none of that involves bowel movements. In fact, I'm not certain they even have bowels once they've been properly transformed.
In some ways, their form of traveling across space is very similar to how the 3 witches traveled in "A Wrinkle in Time."
Cool. Thanks for the explanation. I'll probably read the book soon.
However (I know SFX are dated), visually, the thing looks like a worm with a "mouth" on one end, so the other end would be the "butt" and out of this end comes some type of gas/vapor/flux...
LOL
You're welcome :) That's one of the interesting hallmarks of the "Dune" franchise. Frank Herbert was very vague on descriptions in his books, and often left the look of the story up to the imagination of his readers. There are sooo many artists' depictions of this or that in the Dune universe, and Guild Navigators are no exception. I've seen at least four different interpretations of what they look like. The closest description we get is in one of the books, Princess Irulan gets to see a Guild Navigator during a private meeting with someone else, and she was reminded of its "fish-like" qualities when looking into the spice gas tank it was floating in.
It's actually very rare for people outside the Spacing Guild to meet a Navigator. The Guild is very secretive about their ways, in addition to guarding their Navigators as fiercely as they do their Spice reserves and their monopoly on space travel. The only reason we, as the audience, get to see what's going on is due to artistic choices on behalf of the film-makers; because they wanted to show how humans could travel across vast distances of space without warp drive or extremely advanced technology.
I did notice they are not shown in the remake.
shareI noticed that too. I mean, we get to see the Guild Navigators in the '84 film, the 2000 miniseries, and many artist depictions in books and online, but not the new movies? What gives?
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share I did find it interesting that instead of having one big spacecraft carrier to load all the passenger spacecraft in, and taking the extra step to move everyone once loaded up; the Spacing Guild instead had this gigantic, cigar-shaped ship in orbit over Caladan, with a teleportation gate built into it that was active when the Atreides household was heading to Arakkis. Efficient, but not really how the Navigators do things in the Dune universe.
And yeah, having spacecraft shaped like chess pieces wasn't at all subtle for Villeneuve.
How do they do it in the book?
And what is the significance of the chess piece?
That's actually one thing that annoyed me about the original novel. Herbert writes nothing about the Crossing to Arakkis. It's like, in one chapter the Atreides is on Caladan, the next they are unpacking on Arakkis. It's the film-makers who cover the space travel part of the story, particularly the '84 film and the 2000 miniseries.
If you read enough fantasy or sci-fi stories about political intrigue, particularly where royalty is concerned, writers often use chess to symbolize what's going on overall in that world, and make a note of who is moving the pieces, and who the pieces actually are.
Ok.
I'm not good at analyzing the meaning of things.
Oh that's fine :D Sometimes I miss the symbolism in movies and tv shows too. Like I posted recently about finally learning the meaning behind the seatbelt scene in the first "Jurassic Park" movie, or the ending to "Monty Python and the Holy Grail," because both confused me for years.
shareIt's been so long since I watched Holy Grail I can't even remember.
What was the meaning of the seatbelt?
You can read what I wrote about each in these links :D
https://moviechat.org/tt0071853/Monty-Python-and-the-Holy-Grail/653b43987c4d2854e11334ce/Finally-understand-the-ending
https://moviechat.org/tt0107290/Jurassic-Park/664bd959ae208472a7e5abff/I-finally-figured-out-the-seat-belt-scene
Interesting.
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