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It's been fascinating to watch the opinion of this movie change over the years.


Circa 2003 - Everyone thought this movie was the worst of the franchise by far. Many went so far as to say even taken on it's own merits it's objectively awful.

Circa 2013 - Some people started claiming this movie was actually pretty good. If it was simply Season of the Witch it would possibly be considered a cult classic. The title and expectations for a Myers slasher sequel are what soured people to it.

Circa 2023 - For many this is the second best Halloween movie and for some it's even better than the 1978 movie.




It's the exact same movie as it was back in 1982. It's simply the narrative around it has changed. It's largely groupthink. Enough people champion it and suddenly more people bandwagon. You're now 'allowed' to like it.

Here's a chart of it's IMDb rating history from 2005-2020.
https://i.postimg.cc/rpCPNBMg/Screenshot-2023-09-02-at-21-31-41-IMDb-Rating-History-Graph.png

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I liked it since I was a kid watching it on my dads laserdisc

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Halloween III is a good film. Not a great film. In terms of Halloween franchise films, it's great. It shares technical and aesthetic qualities of the original, and the mediocre retread that is Halloween II, that are as good now as they were then. I don't think genuine critiques of the movie(s) have changed all that much. However there have been changing factors that have influenced the "things to be said" about the franchise.

Halloween III performed modestly at the box office. Nowhere near as well as the original, of course. But it did not match the trend of Friday 13th's box office (by that time, the Pepsi to Halloween's Coke), which saw the third instalment make double what Season Of The Witch would. But it did ok. Just not well enough for Moustapha Akkad

Background : F13th part III was the second Jason film, though some might say it's the first movie for the hockey masked killer, and it was boosted by the 3D gimmick and the raising of Jason's stature, both physically and cinematically.
Halloween financier Moustapha Akkad said that Halloween III was a disaster, which inspired HAlloween 4's Return Of Michael Myeres and return of box office success. The facts are. HIII made about $15M from a $3M budget. H4 made $17M from a $4.5M budget. It's barely a million of a difference. Buuuuuuuuuuttttt - Halloween 4 was #1 at the movies for opening weekend. Akkad was not just one of three participants in the profits the way he was with HII and HIII so he himself would still have done better if H4 had performed worse than HIII. Plus Friday Part 7 did about the same box office in that same year. So Akkad wasn't left with egg on his face.

So you can see already the revisionist narratives ("disaster..... the fans hated it" etc) beginning to form in 1988. Thanks to Akkad.

The next wave of "things to be said" arrived soon after the advent of DVD. When everyone became a collector. And people who weren't around at the time becoming confused when they find HIII isn't a mediocre retread the way ALL franchise sequels are.


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If HIII was so hated by thousands of people who were oblivious to the non-Michael nature of HIII and blindsided by his absence when they went to see the movie (a myth) , or ignored out of spite by fans demanding Michael, then why was the much hyped Return Of Michael Myers attended just as poorly?

Another thing. Michael burned away to ashes at the end of Halloween II. The idea that it was a no brainer that he should appear in another movie the following year is complete nonsense. They might have done it, and the critics and audiences ,might have groaned and the movies would have got worse and worse because of it like Friday 13th, which they did anyway. . But it was by no means an intuitive thing in 1982.

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It's was an awful movie back then and it still is now.

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Loved it back then, still love it 40 years later. I never gave a fruity mouse-fuck about what people thought about it. Some of those people who are so condecending actually think Woody Allen has talent, so eat a bag of dicks. I thought it had a good creepy element to it with a decent cast. There was always something uneasy about a small town where no one dared go against the grain on anything.

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It's not fascinating at all. It's just scary to have people call this garbage a good movie.

Halloween 3 is bloody awful. Not having Michael Myers on it is the least of its problems.

The plot is stupid, the characters are awful, the action and suspense are just boring and unimaginative the robots plot was ludicrous, etc.

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I remember it was on IMDB's Bottom 100 list circa 2003, and yet when I looked at the negative reviews so many could be summed up as "MICHAEL MYERS ISN'T IN THIS OMG WTF."

I saw it years later and thought it was fine. Unique plot, reasonably entertaining villain, certainly enough gruesome imagery, and a memorable ending.

I didn't mind the "robots" stuff given the already supernatural nature of the villain and his scheme.

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Your graph only goes from 3.4 to 5. That makes the change look a little more drastic than it would if you showed the full range of possible votes.

I didn't like it the first time I saw it. Not just because it was a sequel in name only, but it was a little too absurd. Now things like the strange premise and the fuzziness of just what exactly the evil guy was trying to accomplish and some of the ridiculous plot twists don't bother me as much. Maybe its because I've seen a lot of Italian horror in the meantime, so I'm more used to movies that don't try to make a lot of sense. LOL. I appreciate them trying to do something original more as well.

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People were just surprised that it didn’t have Myers. Carpenter didn’t want to continue with Myers after the first one but was forced to for H2.

He killed off Myers and Loomis in it and went back to his original idea of an anthology with different stories for H3.

When it failed he dropped the franchise and sold the rights years later.

Personally, I think H3 is the only good entry. It has an actual plot, it’s supernatural and it’s actually about Halloween. It isn’t some idiot in a mask stumbling around stabbing people during Halloween.

I hated H1 and 2. Boring as hell. Haven’t wasted time on the following sequels.

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My thoughts as well. I never got the hype with MM and a slow walking serial killer.

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