I have had a damn good laugh at this nonsense. Let me add a little bit on info to the debate.
I have a friend who is currently teaching American Kids football in the USA. He has had in his number of weeks there kids aged 11-16 in teams. He's cringed at their inability to grasp the game or to be able to master it. In fact the team he coached last season of Under 10's would have (in his words) ripped them apart. (in football speak that is beaten them convincingly).
On the subject of hooiganism. I have beein inviolved in football, watched football and played football at a number of levels for almost 30 years. I have seen MINIMAL trouble at games. But having said that I think the US Marines or any other military force would be somewhat put off facing a crowd of 200+ Millwall, Chelsea, Leeds and West Ham fans in a dark alley. Thankfully these sort of people have left the game and that is a good thing.
I have been to the USA a number of time now and I love being thre on holiday. The are polite, respectful and organised at their theme parks. BUT they are stil irritating trying to TELL us "HAVE A NICE DAY". But that is the culture and you either take it or leave it. Personally I would wipe Disneyland and all it people off the face of the earth .... ;)
World War II - OH dear God ... the yanks have been bleating on about being the world saviours since 1945. Lets face it ... FOOTBALL and american football is a TEAM sport... yes a TEAM SPORT ! ! ! ... and for God's sake WWII was a team thing. Russians, British, Americans, Polish, Austrian resistance, Italian resistance, French resistance all played their part.
As for the statement earlier of 45 minutes is too long ... Jeez ... Can you attention span not be interested in something for 45 minutes? Does everything in your life have to be only 5 minutes long? .. if So ... you are missing out on a whole heap of fun ;)
I agree you can ONLY call yourselves WORLD champions of a sport IF you include the world. FACT. Otherwise I am the WORLD CHAMPION of Getting into bed at night!
Worlds Greatest footballers? Well Pele obviously. Beckham ? Yes to a degree. Rooney? ERm .. No. C.Ronaldo Not in the slightest. You should add Eusebio (Portugal), Cruyff (Holland), Ferenc Puskas (Hungary) and the legendary who is widely known as one of the best ever players Matthias Sindelar (Austria). Look him up as he died in suspucious cirumstances during the WWII ! ! !
Football is BIGGER than politics in some respects. Countries, when they are forming for the first time (Serbia, Croatia, Latvia etc.), ALL applied to FIFA BEFORE they applied to the United Nations. That says something.
On a lighter note ... When I look out of my window in England, or in many of the other countries of the world I have visited ... kids are not wearing basketball shirts, Baseball shirts (although I like the San Diego Pardres shirts), or American Football shirt ... they wear Manmchester United (man that stuck in my throat), Chelsea, Arsenal etc. and they want to be Beckham, Torres, Berbatov etc. Players in football are mostly known, yes even the US players like Coby Jones, Kasey Keller etc. and wherever they are in world they can be recognised. How many US Baseball stars, or American football players are recognised apart from American Ex Pats? Not many I would suspect.
Beckham goes from Madrid to LA Galaxy and it's news worldwide. Bert goes from one US football team to another football team and it's only news in the USA. I was in LA in 2001 when the Lakers won the NBA (I think that was it). There was a news item on the TV ... 10 minutes on that .. then it was off to some other advert. Yet in San Diego ... there was hardly any mention of the Lakers win there ... if there is a rivialry then sorry you can tell I know little abotu that sport ... so I wouldn't be rude enough to pass judgement on it. Unlike some.
Laters all ... enjoy your sport ... whatever it is and remember had there not been a bit of a div in Rugby pick up the ball in the 1800s then American Rugby wouldn't exist ;)
And here comes Hurst..He's got..Some people are on the pitch..they think it's all over..IT IS NOW !
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jkholman
15 years ago
Wolverineland,
do not deceive yourself into thinking you are the strength of this country when you are actually a liability. And an irresponsible user of free speech, which many foreign countries do not have. As a firearms collector I hope you do not own any "guns". In your case you probably "shoot" "guns".
While in Iraq, the last thing I wanted was the use of nuclear warheads on any scale. Your sanctioning the use of atomic weapons in Vietnam clearly indicates your ignorance of that conflict and its origins. At least in the case of McNamara and company they did not have the benefit of history as we do (Do you even read history, and I am not referring to that regurgitated tripe taught in our classrooms). And please do not refer to Muslims as the bad guys. As I learned recently, they are more monotheistic than their Abrahamic cousins.
As to "soccer" - have you ever tried to play it. I mean with any real sense of involvement as doing something well simply for the sake of doing it right. That is an American tenet, and one which I hope you understand and exercise.
Putting down something because you do not like it is very childish. My five-year-old does that, but by the time she is eleven (the age of her older sister) she should be past that.
Two things, Wolverine, please. Do not tell people [on these boards] that you are an American. If you do, tell them you are a bad American. That is for the rest of us and we would be very grateful.
The other thing is do not have any children. If you do, put them up for adoption or abandon them.
- JKHolman
There is nothing more dangerous than bustling ignorance - Dryden
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