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Ex-con getting into fight right out of prison


Does anyone else find it strange that Wes has no problem getting into a fight considering the fact that he is fresh out of prison? You'd think the guy would try to keep more of a low profile. Hell, if Bud really wanted to get back at Wes, he coulda had one of his friends call his PO and have him thrown back in prison. Seriously.. an ex-con in a public fight with witnesses = ex-con going back to the big house.

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Bud was the aggressor in that encounter. Wes was minding his own business and keeping to himself while trying to start over, bud decided to push his buttons and in turn got his ass whooped except for the one cheap shot that bud got in right off the bat.

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yeah, but wes was more than willing to "step outside" with a regular citizen. an ex-con would have been more careful, dontchathink? it's not like it was a spontaneous brawl. they both went outside and went at it. Bud would have spent a night in jail, and Wes would have gone back to prison for violating his parole. Wes would have definitely used better judgment. I have worked construction around many guys who just got outta prison and they are very careful about getting into any kind of trouble. Guys who have been in prison keep a low profile. They dont want to go back.

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Once again, Wes did nothing wrong. Bud was the one who mouthed off to him from the start all because he tipped his hat to a woman and showed her respect. Tan bud threw his food at him. Fr all we know bud probably was the one who asked him to go outside. Too bad Wes didn't bet his ass more.

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He did nothing wrong, except you know... agree to a fight in a parking lot.. That is illegal, dude. , Bud was a douche. Yes, he was out of line. However, Wes was still an ex-con. He chose to step outside. Noone dragged him into a fight. He could have politely declined instead of getting into a parking lot brawl. As someone who was fresh out of prison, youd think wes would have tried to avoid any kind of trouble. PO's tend to frown upon "trouble." Ex-cons know this and know the consequences.

Choosing to step outside and fight in a parking lot is illegal. how can you not understand this? Bud would have spent a night in jail and Wes would have gone back to prison regardless of who was the douche.

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Times were different back than than they are today. Back than if you had an issue with someone you both went outside settled it and than it was done with, nobody called the cops over a simple fist fight. Once again what did Wes do that was wrong? Bud instigated the incident, egged it on and got what he had coming to him. Wes could have really laid a vicious beating on him if he wanted but instead he decided to be the bigger man and only knock bud off his pedestal a bit.

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Don't get me wrong. Im glad Bud got his ass whipped. Bud was being a douche. He definitely had it coming. I am just pointing out that ex-cons tend to be much more careful. One screw up and their ass is back in the pokey.

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Dude your full of crap..Glenn was tring to make time with his wife..Bud should have not been so drunk and he would have kicked his ass then

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Even today, nobody's likely to call the cops over a quick fist fight in a parking lot, as long as they keep it outside, it's over quickly, and nobody is critically hurt. I've seen it happen many times outside bars. As long as nobody calls the cops (and they would have been less likely to call back then, as you say), Wes would have no trouble with his parole officer.

Fist fighting is illegal, but only a misdemeanor if nobody is injured seriously, and misdemeanors generally aren't prosecutable unless a cop witnesses it (like speeding).

Or maybe Wes did his whole bid and didn't have to deal with parole. I don't remember if this is mentioned.

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Exactly, as we say in the south Bud was cruisin' for a bruisin'!

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Are cons on parole allowed to go party at the bar anyway?


Nostalgia is just not what it used to be.

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It didn't irk me half as much as the fact that he was busted for a federal offense (bank robbery) but was doing time in a state penitentiary. That's just laziness on the part of the writer--if he just wanted to get the character in the Huntsville prison rodeo, he could have just had him in there for robbing a liquor store or something. If it was federal, he would have most likely been in the US Pen in Beaumont (the closest one to Houston). Lazy. Unless there's a bit I missed where it turns out he lied about his sheet to cover up for something nastier, like rape, which would have been believable enough for the character. In any case, I don't find the ex-con-brawling-on-parole scenario implausible; it's one of the less implausible elements in the story (unlike the possibility of the fight at the end resulting in anything other than Bud getting the mother of all ass-kickings---again). My guess is Wesley is one of the Texas Criminal Justice System's frequent flyers, been in and out of the Casa Grande since he was a boy.

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(unlike the possibility of the fight at the end resulting in anything other than Bud getting the mother of all ass-kickings---again)


Actually, that part is fairly realistic since Bud rabbit punches Wes from behind while his back is turned talking to Steve. I thought it was a nice touch so Bud could win without straining believability

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My bro in law slugged a guy for no real reason 1 week after getting out of prison after doing 5 years...nuff said

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That’s pretty antisocial. Has he manages to stay out of prison?

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Bud deserved it for attempting to hit the waitress with his burger. Glenn just happened to be the one who got hit. And yes times were different, aint as sensitive as todays times.

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Wes Hightower was not the type to sweat putting a beat down on anyone. What's most unbelievable is that his PO would be alright with him working in a night club AND Gilley's would even hire a parolee in the first place!

**this head movie makes my eyes rain...waaaaa **

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I have a cousin who has been in prison about three times. He never learns. Same with Wes. He was going to rob Gilley's, but then Bud stopped him. He and Sissy woulda went to mexico and she woulda really had a bad life, compared to being with Bud the wifebeater. Sometimes, prisoners never learn. They love it on the inside, as they have NO responsibilities. They don't have to work, or have any bills to pay. They just need to serve their time.

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Does anyone else find it strange that Wes has no problem getting into a fight considering the fact that he is fresh out of prison? You'd think the guy would try to keep more of a low profile.


While I do agree with you that Wes was acting rather carelessly with his new found freedom from prison by risking being sent back up the river for getting into a fist fight while out on parole. It's, certainly not inconsistent behavior for a character like Wes with a criminal past. What may seem way too risky for rational thinking law abiding citizens. Obviously, a character like Wes doesn't think about the consequences of what could result from getting into a fight outside a diner, he is still functioning like he's in prison and is willing to throw down on anyone who challenges his "Man Hood".

Plus, Wes had a friend (Steve Strange) with him and plenty of witnesses at the diner that could back-up his claim that Bud started the fight inside the diner, which later lead to a confrontation outside where a drunken Bud threw the first punch, and Wes was defending himself.

Hell, if Bud really wanted to get back at Wes, he coulda had one of his friends call his PO and have him thrown back in prison. Seriously.. an ex-con in a public fight with witnesses = ex-con going back to the big house.


Except that... at that point in the movie - where Bud and Wes get into a fist fight outside the diner - I don't think anyone (except for Steve Strange) knew that Wes was an ex-con out on parole.

Remember, it wasn't until days after Bud and Wes got into the fight, and Bud threw Sissy out of their home that Bud then discovers that Wes was one of the bull riders at the prison rodeo that he and Sissy attended. So, it would be inconsistent with the movies time line if Bud ratted Wes out to his PO about the fight the next day, before discovering his criminal history.

And, while I guess you could make the counter-argument that "Okay, I guess you have a point about the movie time line smarty pants. But, Bud could've still reported the fight with Wes to his PO a few days after it took place. After he realized that Wes was an ex-con out on parole."

And, YES... Bud could've done all that, and maybe something would've come of it. But, that's not how a "Urban Cowboy" like Bud would roll. It just wouldn't be his style to rat Wes out to his PO days after getting his ass kicked by Wes outside a diner. Bud would rather take his lumps like a man, rather than sneak around covertly until he found out who Wes' PO was, and then report the incident in hopes of getting Wes sent back to prison. It's just something that good o' boys don't do.

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