...you don't like Jake. Unlike 99% of every movie you've ever seen, the main character is not likable. That's on purpose. Once you realize that fact, watch it again and maybe you'll get why it's one of the greatest movies ever made.
shareI disagree. Look at Inside Llweyn Davis, Bad Santa, Nightcrawler. There are plenty of popular movies with unlikable protagonists. Many people simply find it boring.
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Naaa.. not everyone that dislikes the Angry Cow doesn't "get it". For me.. this is a bad film about an uninteresting and bad man. The script is weak, the fighting sequences are laughably bad and the story is obnoxious, annoying and uninteresting. Scorsese has done much better work.
shareYou don't get it, though. Saying the script is weak and the fight sequences are laughably bad is objectionably wrong, since those elements get tons of praise from experts and laymen alike. Describing Jake as a "bad man" is telling, because it reveals how sophomoric your understanding of film in general really is. Kids talk about "bad men". Adults discuss how all the ways in which Jake is a damaged human being. Nothing you post ever contains in-depth criticism. You just make claims without arguments. By the way, a movie being about a "bad man" is not a negative for any film. Just own up to the fact you like your entertainment to involve "good guys", kiddie.
share"Objectionably" is not the correct word here, you're looking for "objectively." But good points though.
shareI was thinking of objectively and arguably at the same time! Hahaha! Good catch.
shareGoing from calling a person "Kiddie" to being nice for catching something. Now, that is laughable. You should not call someone a kiddie, when you are not acting very mature yourself. If you have to put someone down, then that is pretty childish. That is not adult like at all.
Rated R Horror movies are better, no matter the argument.
Save the supercilious tone for your children. No one here cares.
shareDamaged how? He's straight up *beep* from the very first minutes of the film and we're constantly shown annoying verbal fights. The boxing itself is aesthetically pleasing, but emotionally dull, has no stakes in it. The structure of the film is all over the place, the time constantly and unexpectedly jumps forward.
And that list fight with Sugar Ray? Ridiculous even for Rocky standards.
You have to ask how the overly violent man who cannot keep a healthy relationship is damaged? The boxing is incredibly emotional. It runs parallel to all of the violence and torture that takes place in Jake's private life. He cannot constructively express himself outside of those contained, violent matches. Yes, the structure of the film is interesting and unorthodox.
The fact you throw a Rocky comparison in there makes me think you have that as your standard for what constitutes an emotional fight. Rocky is dreck.
Because there's a lot of SJW's today who can't handle the way the women are treated in this film.
shareIt's not that he's unlikable, it's that he's not realistic in the least. People are aholes, but not like this. The movie took it way overboard. If they could have reigned it in just a bit, it may have worked, but they blew it big time trying to be so over the top.
shareGive an example of how his character was "over the top"?
shareyou mean make him more digestible to audiences?
shareI only have watched this once. I really didn't like it and I doubt I'll watch it again. Just not my type of movie.
shareExactly. That's the most common criticism. That they don't want to watch an asshole for 2+ hours.
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