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Did Mariko send her maid to service Blackthorne?


Or was that just a white lie, and it was her all along?

I have never fully understood whether that was the truth or just a cover-up story.

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In the book it was Mariko herself.

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The first time in the book? I am not sure about it, later on their way to some Japanese city for sure they were already a couple.

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The Miniseries leaves it at Mariko's word that it was her maid and not her. Though it is clear that later on during their trip from Osaka to Edo.. that they did sleep together at least until reaching the outskirts of Edo.

The Novel treats it much the same way at first but then it is revealed to the reader via Mariko's thoughts and perspective That Blackthorn could never know her lie. That it really was her. The maid lie was to protect both Blackthorne and herself as Blackthorne was not well versed in hiding his feelings and would likely expose them.

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firstly in the miniseries, she didnt have a maid anyways LOL

It was clearly stated by her that she belonged to another man, and her husband had a right to have her killed if she dishonored him.

And She said it was a gift from her....

Added a bit of mystery there, but the actress played it great, and the sense was it was her, but they needed the lie to keep up appearances....

Thought they would keep it secret and develop the fujiko relationship a bit more.






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firstly in the miniseries, she didnt have a maid anyways LOL


She did. It would have been entirely out of character for a noblewoman to not have a maid. You only see her a few times as the show never had her be a main character in any individual scene, always just a background character, and Mariko often was unaccompanied by her maid on many occasions so it's easy to see how you are confused that she didn't have one.




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The book goes into much more detail. It was Mariko, not her maid. She eventually had a long running affair with him. While they were traveling, she carried on her affair knowing that eventually every woman in the group would find out about it. She felt safe as long as none of the men found out. One man did, but kept quiet.

Toranaga suspected she was sleeping with Blackthorn, but decided he would have Mariko's husband (Toda Buntaro) put to death if he ever suspected that his wife was cheating on him. Buntaro was an extremely dangerous and loyal person, but Toranaga valued Blackthorn's life more than Buntaro's.

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