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I HATE the phrase 'By Today's Standards'


I personaly cannot stand it when people say that "The movie may have been good for the time, but it isn't by today's standards". I have no idea where people are getting this conclusion from. I laugh at most of movies made now, and find movies from the 70s and 80s to be much, much more violent and brutal. Anyone agree?



Chris "Pillsberry" Gottschalk

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Here, here.

I can't stand most of today's film making.
They try to make the actor's look good rather than the story.

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Couldn't agree more!!!

It's better to rest in the warm body of a friend, than in a cold hole in the ground.

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I hear this applied to all kinds of different criteria -- violence and gore, special effects, storytelling ability, acting, just about everything -- and in just about every category, movies from three decades ago or more generally mop the floor with movies coming out now. I don't know what standards these folks are going by, but I think they're flawed.

Also, on a more nitpicky note, standards are standards. The standards for a movie from the 40s are the same as those for a movie now. Good is good. And as the OP mentioned, when it comes to violence and gore, the period from about 1968 to the early 1980s will possibly NEVER be topped. It most certainly hasn't been yet.


It is 5 AM, and you are listening to Los Angeles.

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well some movies hold up better than others..aaaand by today standards.... I remember beeing scared *beep* when I went to see this movie in a local theater.. (around 1981-82).. saw it again around 1990 and still thought it was pretty scary.. Then bought it some months ago and jeeezus.. it was just so corny (and baaad acting does not get better with time) and I wonder how I managed to sit through it.. It is one of 3 DVD's that I actually threw out after viewing.. including Land of the dead, Blade 3 and now.. Zombie 2.. The only scene I thouhgt remotely held up was the infamous "door scene"..
I wouldn't be caught dead (cough) owning this flick

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Next time you're going to throw away any DVDs, call me first!!

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Yes I REALLY ff-uu-cc-kk-ing hate it when people are stupid enough to use that expression. It's seriously ignorant. And yes I think most horror movies today suck completely.

But as for more "brutal" and "violent," I can't say either way. I don't care about brutality much anymore. I enjoy some brutal horror films, but they're too easy to make. I want something more challenging, more artistic, smarter.

As for violence in general, I think films from the 70's and 80's contained more stylized violence. More artful, over the top. And films today try to show it realistically. So in a way they downplay it but the sequences of death and dismemberment might last longer...



"Carol, one word of advice: send Cindy to a special school"

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Personally i dont think that most who watch Zombie and compare it to some of todays movie MEAN what they say. I dont think its about Zombie being made back in the 1979... I think its the time. The way people talked, the clothes, the haircuts...that pushes people to wrong conclusions.


Everything else is the same if you look closely. Zombies are zombies, they dont change. Island remains the same. Voodoo rituals, boats, NY... most of what Zombie has wld have been the same, if shown/shot today. Probably they wld change characters(some stupid teens) instead of Cliver, McCulloch and Farrow.

People should accept this movie for what it is - a zombie horror movie. And a pretty damn good one. Fulci lives!.







The KickFighter

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I agree. "Todays standards" are rather low in my opinion.Many of them are just stitched together cleches. I would watch Zombi 2 over a new horror movie any day.

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if you think todays films are mild, watch the french film 'i stand alone' which is extremely shocking.

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