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the worst movie producers ruined the old Superman movies


The Salkand brothers who pretty much ruined the sequels with the stupid chain reaction slapstick stuff.

That and Richard Donner didnt do a good job at keeping those people away from messing around with the Superman movies.

Was Spielberg too busy with Indiana Jones and E.T at the time or what?

Werent there other better directors, producers to do the Superman movies?

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Has anyone ever told you you have no sense of humor? Have a lot of people told you you have no sense of humor?

Well if you didn't like the lighter elements of this movie, you don't.

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How could the director keep the producers away ? The Salkind brothers had the rights for making Superman movies they were so much in charge of the whole thing Donner's only option was to quit while finishing up Part 2 and so came Lester as director and changed things based on what the Salkind bros wanted.

Salkind's were so stingy they were super happy that Brando left the 2nd film...talk about idiots.

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Well, these movies are good in many ways, but they don't really ever reach the potential of what a Superman movie could (or even should) be.

The problem with Superman is, he's too powerful, so it's hard to make viable stories about him.

The relatively modern cartoon did a relatively good job, though, as they lessened his powers.

The second movie is probably the best, as there's an actual, proper threat, proper villain (or three), and a lot of funny moments as well. The whole romance crap ruined it a lot, though, and makes no sense - as if Superman could ever FALL (defying gravity, has SUPER speed) into a fire. It's like Bruce Lee not being able to avoid, block or intercept a really slow, telegraphed punch he can see twelve years before it occurs.

I mean, he can go around Earth multiple times in a SECOND, he can't stop his fall?? He can defy gravity, he doesn't ever have to FALL! The falling into the fire with his hand and then letting the hand stay there for multiple seconds-scene makes absolutely NO sense.

The problem with this (the first) movie, is that it doesn't have much of a story or plot, nothing interesting happens, and it's full of nonsense and plotholes - the 'turning back time'-thing is WAY too problematic, for example. If he goes to fix the history, then he will have no motivation to go back to fix the history, and we should see two Supermen, and yet we don't.

It's a lot like the shower scene in 'Planes, Trains, Automobiles' - There's no way Neal Page would take the first shower in a way that Del would be able to mess up the bathroom without Neal Page noticing before he comes out of the shower. Del is the NOISIEST individual in the movie, and Neal is so anál-retentive, he would _DEFINITELY_ only shower after LOCKING THE DOOR SECURELY, and Del wouldn't intrude on his shower turn, he even OFFERED him to shower first, etc.

The shower thing, thus, can't happen - if Del goes first, Neal sees the messed-up bathroom.

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If Neal goes first, the bathroom will 100% guaranteed be 100% clean and full of big towels.

Either one goes first negates the possibility for the whole shower-scene. I can't see HOW someone like Neal could end up in that situation, I have thought all kinds of scenarios, and it just can't happen, no matter how I figure it.

The only plausible explanation would have to go so far as to use some kind of simulation theory, time-travel, memory erasing, inter-dimensional reality altering by Extra-Terrestrial Elders, something along those lines, and even still it'd be hard to explain all the details.

This first Superman movie is the same way; for something to happen, it can't happen.

Superman doesn't do anything too interesting in this movie, there's no proper villain battle, etc.

The second movie has proper threat, villain, need for a Superman, but then Superman is shown to be REALLY childish and petty, not someone you can look up to, and the 'memory-erasing kiss' is ridiculous.

The third movie is basically a visual cartoon, and using Richard Pryor REALLY doesn't gel or fit, and the computer stuff couldn't be more unrealistic or nonsensical if someone tried their hardest.

Weather satellites do not CONTROL the weather, they only REPORT it. That's the kind of logic the third movie is full of. Horrible stuff.

The only good thing about the third movie is the fight between Clark and Superman, though it's weird that Clark (the fake personality) wins, Clark isn't even supposed to have super powers.

The less said about the abysmal, slimy and more-cartoony-than-He-Man-cartoon fourth installment, the better.

There are probably fan-made movies in eighties that are better.

It's hard to find good superhero movies in any case, movies are not as imaginative and free as comics, so anything you see in a movie, is bound to be less interesting and more mundane and predictable than the comics.



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The Incredibles is a good attempt, it has many good moments and exciting energy, but the problem with THAT movie is that there's too much 'relationship' or 'family' drama crap, and not enough Super Action.

I mean, JUST when the action starts getting good, Syndrome stops it, and it never gets back again - the end fight against the robot is boring, as the robot itself is very boring, just a big ball, and the fight is short and so atypical, it's hard to enjoy as much as a proper fight could be enjoyed.

Considering everything from comics to all the movies and other superhero stuff, looking at this movie, it's pretty boring and tame, and almost nothing happens. Too bad, Christopher is definitely the right choice for this role.

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