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Did people thought Vader was a robot?


I haven't watched this movie in a while... but saw Darth Vader in some other media... and I've always known that he was Anakin since the OT came out way before I was born.

But had me thinking... did (most) people think Darth Vader was a robot like C3PO and R2... instead of a human in there?

Since it was not revealed that he was a human until when he takes off the helmet in Empire... as well as revealing who he actually was at the end of Empire.

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no one thought that

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Nah nobody thought that and the fact that he's constantly breathing makes it clear it's not a droid.

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Do robots breathe?

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plot hole!

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Its not a plot hole. Its fully explained in episode 3 why he breathes so heavy

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Asthma?

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Nope. Thats a good guess though. Watch episode 3. I won't spoil it for you

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Oh! Bronchitis!

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Not even close. However thats another good guess

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Emphysema?

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You finally got it.

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Thank god!

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Yes they do, General Grievous breathed

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He was a cyborg, not a robot

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They are literally the same thing.

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False.

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A robot is completely mechanical and electrical. A cyborg is an organic lifeform with robotic enhancements. Grievous was mostly robotic but he began life as an organic being.

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Still the same thing.

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A robot is essentially a computer. The core of a cyborg is organic. A robot can never be a cyborg and a cyborg can never be a robot.

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I don’t believe you, let’s just chalk it all up to being a plot hole.

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Grevious is not a robot. He was a humanoid alien but suffered a similar fate as Vader. The camera zooms into his eyes in Episode 3 and you see very organic eyelids and mucus, indicating he's not a robot. He also has normal organs and dies because Obi-Wan shoots them.

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I'd call him a Cyborg. A human being who relied on robotic limbs to get around. Luke was a cyborg after getting his hand replaced with a robotic one.

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We're all mobile phone cyborgs now. Effectively.

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We thunk he were a salesman of the insurance type.

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When it first came out we didn’t know what he was. Vader was scary when you first saw him as kid.

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Not Vader for me, but the stormtroopers yes. When I was very little in the early 1980s and discovering Star Wars I remember thinking the white ones must be robots because they all looked the same and had no visible human skin. But then Han and Luke stole their uniforms and I realised there are humans inside.

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I saw some fans in 1977 guessing that they thought Vader was some really ugly alien who had to hide his appearance under his suit.

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