Did anyone notice the high amount of cigarette smoking in this film?
It was disgusting. Imagine how putrid George Segal must have smelled after coming out of that smoke room where he was trying therapy to quit. Yuck!
Almost every scene seemed to contain someone smoking. I guess it was just a bit thing in films in 1977.
As an ex-smoker myself, that scene looked pretty gross to me too, but that was the point, right? The Segal character was trying to quit.
I don't condone smoking, but I'm sorry, I find it positively frightening how nanny state government has controlled our behavior in this way (privately owned establishments aren't allowed to let their patrons do something perfectly legal?). More people die from heart disease caused by fatty foods than cigarettes. I suppose our diet will be the next thing they regulate?
It was a much freer country back then.
"I suppose our diet will be the next thing they regulate?"
Well, that´s not an entirely fair comparison because there is no such thing as second hand fat consumption and greasy meat doesn´t smell as bad as cigarette smoke, either. Even being a smoker myself, I don´t like people smoking around me when I´m not, especially indoors.
"facts are stupid things" - Ronald Reagan
Yes. Please. Absolutely.
People with a family history of death should take the personal responsibility to avoid certain antagonists.
With that said, I resent those same people deciding what is right for the majority of free people.
The Cancer Society statistics only indicate a Risk of lung cancer of 22.1% in a lifetime of smoking (85 years), and the probable rate of death from same is much less than that, perhaps no more than 5%. I say perhaps because the Cancer Society is not being honest about the figures, electing instead to push for prohibition and more money for themselves by fear mongering.
By those figures, you might conclude that 4 in 5 smokers do not develop lung cancer. The rate of throat cancer is less than 2%
By comparison, the Cancer Society now claims that 1 in 2 Americans will be diagnosed with Cancer in their lifetime, with or without Tobacco exposure.
By the official Cancer Society figures, smoking is now at an all-time low, and lung cancer cases have been replaced with an upswing of breast and prostate cancers in the place of lung cancers. Google for the figures and go figure.
1 in 2 Americans are projected to develop diabetes in their lifetime. Should we outlaw candy bars for the healthy?
So, I personally resent the bad drivers being allowed to decide what the majority of good drivers will not be allowed to do.
Would you allow ex-alcoholics to outlaw beer?
Over 480,000 people died from tobacco smoking-related disease last year. This is more than all the people who overdosed on marijuana in the last 20 years!
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Forty years from now when smart phones are proven to cause [name whatever disease you wish] folks will be making the same comment about them that the OP does about cigarettes. Humanity changes and evolves. It's what we do.
shareI believe it's a virus that causes lung cancer, probably HPV. If smoking does anything, it may enable this virus to travel farther, and faster to do its deadly work. Smoking can also compromise the immune system, which may allow the virus to gain a foothold and resist getting cleared.
shareI remember seeing this in a theater and smoking cigarettes through the whole thing. We were young then.
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Anyone see an obscure little movie called the Exorcist? It was 1973, the mother takes her little demon child to the hospital to have her checked out. Afterwards she meets with the Dr in the hallway to discuss it and they both light up. It was hilarious.
shareWhy don't you get into a time machine; go back to 1977; and shoot all of the smokers? Is that all you get out of a movie? Maybe they were all eating cholesterol and baby veal back then, too! Wah wah wah wah wah......
shareWhat a pointless ******* thread, people used to smoke lots, so what. A lot still do, I smoked for 25 years and I used to inhale!!! and I used to enjoy it!!! Get over it.
Well said. This thread is recreated on every medium out there: from Facebook to Flickr (every photo of someone holding a cigarette) to old movies forums, to old advertising sites. It never ceases to astonish me.
shareNot sure why you are upset about this? This thread is more about "wow, there was a lot of smoking going on back then", than the preachy, moralistic tone your have interpreted as having. It was really just an observation.
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I'm puzzled as to how you determined that I am "upset" about the post, and how you detected a "tone"- preachy, moralistic, or otherwise, from my observation. I merely registered my astonishment at how pervasive the cigarette discussion is (to the point of being mind-numbing repetitive). Here's the start of the thread:
["Did anyone notice the high amount of cigarette smoking in this film?
It was disgusting. Imagine how putrid George Segal must have smelled after coming out of that smoke room where he was trying therapy to quit. Yuck!
Almost every scene seemed to contain someone smoking. I guess it was just a bit thing in films in 1977"]
Seems a bit harsher than your interpretation of the theme of the thread: "wow, there was a lot of smoking going on back then" I'd say it actually sounds "preachy and moralistic." Let me guess....rabid, anti-tobacco crusader?
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My response was meant for Figbird, not you. Sorry about that. And you are right; many of these types of threads descend into black or white arguments, often repeating themselves. For the record, I am not a rabid, anti-tobacco crusader. I had family who smoked (though luckily quite the habit early enough to avoid complications later in life), as well as friends. I don't preach or harp on them for doing it. I only ask that they not do it in my presence. My original post was an observation on the changing societal view of smoking, and was not preachy.
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Murdoch: Climb, baby, climb!
Hi~ No worries. I'm always interested to know what other people are thinking, even in such an anonymous venue as this is. I think I just reacted because I probably had my fill of those who do harp on it ("Geez...that Bette Davis is smoking! Ewww.")I guess there are those who want to change history, but that's not possible (with the exception of E.T., where they edited-out guns, and made them into flashlights). I'm on a FB page for vintage ads, and each time someone posts a cigarette ad from the 40s or so, it turns into an anti-smoking/quitter's support group. I just appreciate it for what it is. Methinks we have bigger fish to fry in this increasingly-awful World. Thanks for your candor, and I hope my cynicism didn't show too strongly. It's what I tend to do, when exasperated.
Best Wishes,
Ed