am i the only one who thought this movie was a huge metaphor for the christian religion? the whole fact that they all are living in this idealistic world thinking they're reborn with this wonderful ceremony..just to find out the truth, all that happens is death. maybe i'm reading into it way too much..but it seemed to relate well
good movie though. the plot was really unique
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Personification of False Religion.
Young man is angry! Girl is afraid! He wants to get high, she wants to get paid! City's Burning!
Then what do the sandmen symbolize?
shareIf we're proceeding from the OP's premise, I think the Sandmen could be interpreted as representing religious fundamentalists in government-- enforcing the religion's rules, seeking to punish those who disobey (and seeming to enjoy the **** out of it) ... oh, and prone to hypocrisy :-P
I'm an island- peopled by bards, scientists, judges, soldiers, artists, scholars & warrior-poets.
I found the movie to be a take on Plato's Analogy of the Cave. I don't know too much, just some of what my prof. mentioned in class a couple years ago. But it seemed to me the cave was the city, Logan and Jessica were the people who left the cave, saw the world for what it really was and went back to tell the others.
shareI just learned about Plato's Cave in my History and Philosophy of Literature class last Wednesday!
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I thought the film had some egyptian undertones. The key Logan uses when escaping the city is an Ankh, which in ancient egypt was the sign of eternal life. Logan and Jessica are mesmerised by the sun when they see it for the first time, the sun was worshipped in ancient egypt and had its own god named Ra. Finally when they meet the old men, he is surrounded by a number of cats. Cats were worshipped by the ancient egyptions just as the sun was.
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No, it's a metaphor for Hollywood, which worships youth and hedonismand once a woman is over thirty, she's useless.
shareNo, it's a metaphor for Hollywood, which worships youth and hedonismand once a woman is over thirty, she's useless.
Well you could say that as the citizens of the city are against the idea of life continuing after thirty, but the film also highlights the excessive need for technology. All the citizens of the city are controlled by a super computer and they use modern technology in their everyday lives. Their exsistence is controlled by the super computer within the city to such an extent that they don't know what is beyond the walls, this is proven when Logan and Jessica see the sun for the first time, they aren't sure what it is. Referring to my pervious post on this thread I mentioned ancient egypt as to me the film used the beliefs of the ancient egyptians in a symbolic manner, there are many interpretations that you can make of Logan's Run. So mine and your interpretations are valid.
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You couldn't swing a dead cat without hitting an Ankh in the 70s. Everybody and their brother had one.
Right next to their Lava Lamps (which they still use to designate "the Future" - Why, Why?).
All the cool kids were into Pyramid Power, man. Seriously, people meditated while wearing Pyramid Hats.
In 50 years, what will future viewers think of the Symbolic Reference of swiping your phone to unlock a door?
A sign of Ancient Communications? Perhaps they will . . . people certainly seem to worship their phones nowadays.
But the Ankhs were simply a graphic reference to a youthful fashion of the times to make the Future seem Hip.
Seen any Ankhs around lately? No?
They're being stored right next to the Beaded Doorway Curtains and the Mutton-chop Sideburns, over there in that
Tie-Dyed box with the Peace Signs and Smiley Faces on it.
Just make a left at the pile of 1980s "Members Only" jackets.
If we hit that bull's-eye, then the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards...Checkmate.
ACtually I thought the sanctuary was a metaphor for heaven. You know "It exists because people want such place to exist"
shareInteresting points. There were definitely 2 metaphors happening.
(1) Renewal
(2) Sanctuary
The majority embraced 'renewal' which might be considered a metaphor for Hindu 'reincarnation'. The rebellious minority embraced 'sanctuary' which I agree is a metaphor for 'heaven'.
The funny thing is that BOTH turned out to be counterfeit. People were suckered both by the promise for 'renewal' as well as 'sanctuary', and in return they got either torched or frozen but no prize. I think the movie is targeting all religions that promise a big reward to those who blindly follow orders.
Also both concepts exist because of a tradition. No one remembers why they live in a dome. It's just a given fact, as is the renewal. Also Box is in a way showing that there has been some other society, which was forgotten and left Box do his job, for reasons it doesn't understand.
shareTo me, Box is one of the most interesting characters because he's so unreal, leaving it up to our interpretation what he represents. If we're thinking in terms of religion, he's like a high priest who, like you said, is stuck on tradition and doesn't know what it means. This plus his fanaticism & absolute power turn him into something like the Grand Inquisitor.
shareI suppose that's one way to look at it. However when compared to the revelations near the end, it looses a lot of it's religious meaning. The old man in Washington, is as much oblivious about purpose of everything around him, than everyone else are about their surroundings.
It just so happens that meaning of religious traditions are forgotten in similar way. That's not to say it couldn't might as well mean laws or family traditions etc.
I'd say the movie's suppose make the audience ask "why"
The only religion that is directly addressed in the film is that of Sanctuary, which Logan 5 describes as a belief created and perpetuated by the populace. It's interesting that he does not blame the Computer (Servo-mechanism) for creating the false religion of Renewal, nor does he lay the massacre of Carousel at the Computer's feet.
shareIt both had religious undertones (Adam and eve, the wise old man, baptism, rebirth) and at the same time was antireligious I thought... The fact the y all believed in something that was obviously not true (renewal) just on faith.... Like religion!
shareI just saw Logan's run. Great movie! With that said, I think that LR was like the matrix in a sense (or vice versa since LR came out first). Here are some the similarities I noticed.
1. Both movies take place inside of a fake world where people are oblivious to the real world.
2. Logan is kind of a mixture of Neo and Agent smith in a sense.
3. The Sandmen are like the agents, as both of their duties require protecting the system and killing of dissidents.
4. Both worlds are ran by machines.
5. The carousel is a way for the machine to dispose of human energy much like the pods are.
6 Like Neo, when Logan finds out about the real world, he feel obligated to "wake everybody up".
I don't know if anybody else realized the comparison, but that's what I got from watching LR.
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This movie is rife with symbolism IMO.
Here's my opinion of what it's trying to convey.
It's essentially about modern society headed for a crisis and in need of a spiritual transformation as opposed to short-sighted dogma which promises an afterlife but doesn't deliver.
The dome city represents us closing ourselves off to the world as vanity, ageism, hedonistic pursuit of pleasure, and overstimulation take hold while individualism and the pursuit of true knowledge dies.
Logan and Jessica become the "adam and eve"(or the buddah or shamans or whatever) who wander into a garden of eden and become enlightened. They then return home to shout from the rooftops that it doesn't have to be this way, but unfortunately they are summarily ignored and subjugated. Only when a catastrophic trans-formative event takes place(brought about through self knowledge btw) does the dome crumble and humanity emerge ready to open it's collective eyes and realize the truth.
That's basically the message I got out of it.
So to the OP I think you are hitting the mark.
No. You're thinking of Hinduism and Buddhism. "Life is a wheel", "another chance after physical death" and all that silliness.
Christianity is about Relationship, not religion. Look into it.