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Who´s That Girl

posted 20 years ago by LarsHell
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Right at the start of this film, Michael Caine attends a transport of Jews. On girl, a beuatuful woman in a dark trenchcoat with the jewish-star on it breaks out and flees over the snow. Michael Caine stopps her, asking her name. German dubbing calls her as Ivonne. Now my memory humbles, i recall Caine to let Ivonne go, but i also recall her to be shoot at a train-waggon. Whatever: Does anybody know wich actress portrayed "Ivonne". She lokks much like Valerie Gaunt, but in the cast list there are only two female participants without rolename, Kate Binchy an Asa Teeter. Who Played "Ivonne" ???

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[–] nickynichole01 19 years ago

Yes that was the scene, but he pulled a walther pistol on the SS Gruppenfuhrer (general) yes fantasy but pretty dramatic scene.

Nicky was here.

[–] dazzyboy2004 19 years ago

I'll answer points made in all four of the above posts, as this is my favourite scene from the movie.

"Who Played "Ivonne" ???"

Does it really matter, it's not like you're gonna marry her is it?

"Is that supposed to be underwear?"

It looks like a female pair of long-johns. I don't think they wanted her in trousers and some form of underwear was necessary when she landed on her backside.

"I would dearly like to have thought that such sentiment existed in the Wehrmacht at that time."

It was just an attempt by the filmakers to portray Caine and co. as heroes. Personally I seriously doubt a paratrooper Colonel would have risked his career over a Jewish girl, even if he disagreed with the policy.

"Yes that was the scene, but he pulled a walther pistol on the SS Gruppenfuhrer (general)"

He didn't pull a pistol on the general. But he did argue with the general and eventually lost.

[–] neilschroeder2004 19 years ago

It was very rare, but there are a few documented instances of Wehrmacht soldiers protecting Jews from the SS. A good example is Major Karl Plagge who sheltered about 1,200 Jews at a vehicle workshop while the SS annihilated the Vilnius ghetto.

I certainly would not extrapolate such rare instances into some sort of all purpose exoneration of the Wehrmacht.

[–] pcsarkar 18 years ago

U guys have forgetten Schindler's List?? The movie was based on actual events!!

[–] spaceboy_52 18 years ago

"The movie was based on actual events!! " ... Yeah we all know that.

The topic is Wehrmacht soldiers protecting Jews. Schindler was a business man not a soldier.

What Kind Of Man Gives Cigarettes To Trees?

[–] roberts-39 18 years ago

I was trying to think of one of the first movies that showed Germans in a sympathetic light. "The Young Lions" with Brando as the German Officer comes to mind. (I'm pretty sure it was actually banned in the U.S. for some time.) Though the number of instances where German soldiers performed what would be considered decent acts toward Jews or other conquered peoples is one of history, the theatrical device of making them more human has been used several times and certainly adds complexity to the characters.

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[–] tom202 18 years ago

Yes, I think that there were a few instances, especially in war-torn Berlin, days before the official surrender, when retreating or escaping Wehrmacht units opened fire on nasty SS Feldpolizei (Field police) who questioned them and threatened them with execution on charge of desertion.
Certainly by 1945, the fear by the Wehrmacht of the SS had more or less disintergrated, as shown in the book 'A Thousand Suns' by Alex Scarrow. A good book, but one with an extremely unlikely plot.

Gr. Arg.

[–] pmiano100 15 years ago

She was a young girl, not a woman. Considering the power of the SS, Steiner would not have been a fool to so blatantly confront them. "The Young Lions" was never banned in the US. The writer was on the blacklist and he was banned. The credits listed him under a pseudonym.

The Wehrmacht was not an organ of the Nazi party, but of course had some Nazis in it. Some were brutal and pro-Hitler, some were very decent. Most went along to get along, just like any other army in any other war. The big difference was that the average German soldier in WWII had to go along with more or it meant the Russian Front, a virtual death sentence. Some SS and Gestapo officers even had the right to shoot them on the spot without explanation.

Good Germans, bad Germans - who cares? History has made them the bad guys of WWII, no matter how decent the individual German one. Whether willingly or not, they served evil, and were in the wrong. As my uncle who fought in Europe (my father was in the Pacific said): "You shot the uniform, not the man." It is the ultimate tragedy of war that decent people kill decent people. It simply can't be avoided except by not fighting a war in the first place.

[–] pablo-taylor 16 years ago

Except in real life Schindler acted purely to protect his business interests; he wasn't the 20th Century Moses the film portrays him to be.

[–] gayspiritwarrior 16 years ago

Do you think his motives mattered to the people whose lives he saved?

"The value of an idea has nothing to do with the honesty of the man expressing it."--Oscar Wilde

[–] inspectors71 18 years ago

Whether or not it's realistic, it is sentimentally appealing to see a decorated professional soldier say no to a morally indefensible policy, and take his lumps for it.

"You eat guts."--Nick Devlin

[–] bonesmiller 15 years ago

The scene also foreshadows the scene at the mill, where Steiner's troopers 'lose everything' after one saves a girl. He is a strong leader and his troops follow his example.

[–] tom202 18 years ago

To whom is that comment addressed?

Gr. Arg.

[–] zaraath 17 years ago

It sounds like her name was Brauna, but who played her in anyone's guess at this point.

[–] TerryThomasPhotos 16 years ago

The actress is what we refer to as a "Featured Extra" because she said fewer than 5 words.

As an unnamed extra in many movies, that's just how it goes. We work for a day or two, get paid and are lost to history. Right now I'm on the set of Melissa John Hart's latest film, "Your Presence Requested" but won't be listed in the credits. On the other hand roles like that have let to a phone call I got two days ago asking me to play the feature role of a detective in a cop film.

Terry Thomas
Character Actor and Film Unit Stills Photographer
Atlanta, Georgia USA
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1669504/
www.TerryThomasPhotos.com

[–] Grooblle 16 years ago

La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la
EVE'S THAT GIRL
La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la

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I like goats.

[–] DwightFry 16 years ago

I don't know if it's Kate Binchy the one you're looking for, but Asa Teeter is a man.

There's no Santa Claus

[–] cliffdweller 16 years ago

Leonie Thelen

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