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Susan George blacklisted in Hollywood, after love scene with Ken Norton


It was the 1970's when "Mandingo" came out. Folks were just heeling from the rough 60's. A promising young actress named Susan George was on her way up the Hollywood ladder. She just did a movie called "Dirty Mary, Crazy Larry". Then she agreed to do a movie about the old south called "Mandingo". In the film she has a love scene with a black boxer/actor named Ken Norton. She agrees and wants to do the love scene. When the movie was released in the summer of 1975. That love scene between her and Ken Norton shocked alot of white people back then. White men the worst!

Susan George couldn't get another major role in Hollywood after "Mandingo". She was reduced to "B' type movies and made for TV movies after that. Hollywood didn't want to see her in any major films or major acting roles after her love scene with Ken Norton in "Mandingo". Hollywood to this day is scared of showing black love. And they don't want to see a big muscular black man with a white woman! I read later on that this movie was not shown in certain areas of the south back in 1975. Don't know if that is true or not. But I do know this to be true. I was 15 years old when I first saw "Mandingo" at the movies in 1975. And remember hearing acouple people gasp when that love scene was shown.

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Hahaha. I remember seeing Tintorera when it first came out. It was originally called, "Tintorera: Tiger Shark" and it was a stinker. If I remember correctly, it was a poorly dubbed Mexican production. And ah yes, I do remember Susan George butt booty naked sandwiched between those two studs. It seems that every movie I saw her in afterwards, she either had her tits flopped out or her legs cocked open...or both. If you can get past that, she actually wasn't a bad actress.

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What I remember about the love scene is that Ken Norton was so much bigger than Susan George he made her look like a toddler in the closeups.

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chesterrodney: “Susan George couldn't get another major role in Hollywood after ‘Mandingo’. She was reduced to ‘B’ type movies and made for TV movies after that. Hollywood didn't want to see her in any major films or major acting roles after her love scene with Ken Norton in ‘Mandingo’. Hollywood to this day is scared of showing black love. And they don't want to see a big muscular black man with a white woman!”

That is a black racist fantasy. Over twenty years after Mandingo, when white actors were shown making passionate love to even a half-black woman (Halle Berry), blacks went nuts.

Susan George had specialized in playing sluts before Mandingo, she played one in Mandingo, and she continued playing such roles thereafter. Since Mandingo was itself a trashy B-movie, the notion that her career went downhill thereafter, is ludicrous. Besides, you provide no evidence that she was blacklisted (or is it, whitelisted?). All you have are your racist fantasies.

Sidney Poitier had already broken the particular color line you speak of in Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner in 1967, an A-movie if ever there was one, which was nominated for ten Oscars, and won two.

Jim Brown had his famous shower scene with Raquel Welch in 100 Rifles in 1969. And Raquel Welch is white, was considered white at the time (Hispanic whites are more obsessed with their whiteness than are non-Hispanic whites), and only very recently, for opportunistic reasons, decided to publicly become a “proud Latina.”

(http://www.google.com/search?hs=cGS&hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial_s&q=%22Raquel+Welch%22&as_q=%22proud+Latina%22&btnG=Search%C2%A0within%C2%A0results)

And important independent movies, such as One Potato, Two Potato in 1964, had already explored interracial love affairs between black men and white women. Chesterrodney has invented a non-existent issue, in order to vindicate his racist fantasies. If anything, Hollywood, like the mainstream media in general, has an allergy against showing black WOMEN in the arms of white MEN.

chesterrodney (later): “As for Susan George, I never said she was blacklisted from ‘A’ list status in Hollywood. I said she was blacklisted from getting roles in major Hollywood movies.”

Although he never used the word “blacklisted” in his first statement, Chesterrodney obviously meant just that. But he not only uses the term in his second statement, he goes beyond simply contradicting an earlier statement, to contradicting himself from one sentence to the next! Way to go, man! You not only boglerized movie history, you boglerized logic, as well!

To boglerize – my coinage – refers to the practice of film “historian” Donald Bogle of misrepresenting movie history by recounting pictures in which blacks played minor roles, as if the blacks were the stars and the actual white stars were invisible, of ignoring dominant performances by whites in movies in which they co-starred with black performers (e.g., Rod Steiger (or “Stieger,” as Bogle calls him) and Sidney Poitier in In the Heat of the Night), while dishonestly celebrating the black performer, and most pathetically, of routinely misspelling the names of white actors, while never doing so with the names of black performers.

(http://www.google.com/search?hs=ydT&hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial_s&q=%22Donald+Bogle%22&btnG=Search)

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LOL!!!! You are a complete joke addldda! A clown! LOL!! If you took the time to read EVERY post. You would see where I said, that I read about this in a movie magazine back in the late 70's. And no, I don't still have that magazine, of course I don't, I was a teenager when I had that magazine. Why would I make something like this up? Of course I added my own views to it, it was MY post. And no, I don't remember the name of the movie magazine. So stop coming at me, you don't know me and I don't know you! I have the right as an American to say how I feel about any and all subjects, just like you do.

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Sorry to take up a delicate subject, but wasn't the whole reason white men of the time were so opposed to interracial relations, was that they realized and were afraid, for the most part, that once white women had relations with black men, that their white counterparts, didn't, ahem, "measure up"?

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HA! I love that one.

What a considerable insult to the value of the noble, angry hog.

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I've seen alot of susan Georges films, and although she is very good looking, I think she lacks in the talent range. With exception of Straw dogs where she showed a little talent and alot of bod, her roles were mostly Bod.

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A friend once told me that he won't want anyone to know if he had a big penis. I asked, "Why?" His response was, "I won't want everyone to know my wife had a big vagina."

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I laugh at the hint that white guys are smaller, I'm white and am vey well hung. Stereotypes by a black man? No way?!?!?!


/sarcasm....

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thank you nicholas. excellent rejoinder. and truthy, too!

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Raquel Welch is half-white, half-Hispanic/Latina.(The omnly other Hispanic whites I know of are Raquel's daughter Tawnee, SuzanneVega and Cameron Diaz) Her character in 100 rifles was Native American so what you saw was a blackman and a Native American woman having an inter-racial relationship. The only inter-racial sex scene I know of from the 70s was The Eiger Sanction whe Clint Eastwood made love to Vonetta McGee. How did people react to that?

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Hollywood liberals are the worst bigots, and most other liberals don't know it. They're a hell of a lot worse than what they claim Joe McCarthy was.

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Susan George was actually a very popular "child star" in England. She dated Andy Gibb.
Personally, I think she should have played WILLOW in THE WICKER MAN. No offense to Britt Eklund, but I think Susan could have EASILY mastered a Scottish accent!!!(and they wouldn't have needed a BODY DOUBLE!) I read Susan is married now, pretty much retired from acting, & raises horses with her hubby in the UK. I thought she was terrific in STRAW DOGS...but miscast in MANDINGO. Oh well..old history & old Hollywood! Cheers!!

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Thanks for the update. I'm glad to see that she is happy and doing well. And I liked her in "Mandingo".

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Well Jim Brown also had sex with blonde Stella Stevens in Slaughter which was extremly graphical as both were totally buttnaked, unlike 100 Rifles. Movie was released in 1972.

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I thought Susan George was terrific, she was able to play adult roles from the time she was 16, as she was one of Ian Ogilvy's murder victims in 1967's "The Sorcerers," starring Boris Karloff. She was well cast in both "Straw Dogs" and "Mandingo," and I also enjoyed her work in 1971's "Fright" and 1982's "Venom." Some criticised her as 'over the top' in "Mandingo," a close examination left me believing that her 'Bette Davis' accent was spot on, and the only scene that really qualified as overdone was her hysterical reaction to her husband's discovery that she was no untouched virgin on their wedding night. She will always be an underrated actress, but not one without talent, and no one seems to want to comment on the courage it took to do a love scene in this fashion at that time. No doubt, it was one of the main reasons for its success at the box office. Certainly, Susan George was better known more for her offscreen affairs than any of her films. I for one, wish that I could have known her then.

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There is another example of interracial relationships on moves, Jane Alexander and James Earl Jones appeared in "The Great White Hope" 1970, and this movie was filmed before "Mandingo". Jane Alexander is totally an american girl and she wasn't blacklisted of "A" or "B" or "Z" Hollywood movies. In fact, she received three Oscar nominations after this part (Oscar Nominated too).

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I may be wrong, but I don't recall Jane Alexander and James Earl Jones being completely naked like Susan George and Ken Norton were in their love scene. That is what got Hollywood in such an uproar. The fact that Susan George was completely nude with a black man who was also completely nude, in a hot steamy love scene. That was a no no back then.

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I don't know about the blacklisting but, I dought it. She did make a movie in 1974 that is considered a cult classic and made millions all over the world called "Dirty Mary crazy Larry" with Peter Fonda. I have this on DVD and I love it.It has some fantastic real stuntwork in it. This is a very entertaining movie. I think it is the best one I've seen her in. BTW this DVD has a very good featurette with interviews with Peter Fonda,Susan George,and the Director.This featurette also points out part of what I'm saying, so I definitely wouldn't say she never did any really good movies. Of course this is no academy award movie but again, very entertaining in my opinion and I wouldn't give up my DVD. BTW "Mandingo" was a MOVIE not a documentary. It was made for entertainment. If I can get the DVD I will. My VHS copy is getting old.

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Susan George was not a particularly talented actress and like most actresses in the U.S. she came and went in about a five year period. Many actresses have suffered the same fate over the decades of Hollywood history. Her fading away had nothing to do with her part in MANDINGO. That might have made for good publicity back in the day and attempted to stir up some interest in her again, but there is no truth to it.

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She was not blacklisted. She was a lousy actress. I saw that, when I saw this movie, and I was 16 years old, and I could tell she was a lousy actress. Even in Dirty Mary/Crazy Larry, she was insipid.
She went back to England, and is still acting, and Directing.
Big deal about Mandingo. She sucked !

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How fortunate and gifted to be a movie critic at 16. I'm Impressed.

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I saw a clip of her in Mandingo and her acting is really bad, she's is so affected that I thought she was having an a seziure. If she was blacklisted it was becuase of her horredous acting.

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LMAO! I'm Black and I personally have not had sex with or want to have sex with a White woman. Having said that I don't knock anyone who does or has. If my daughter was to date or marry a White guy, as long as he is a decent man,that's on her. Maybe it's me but I just don't see the big deal with people of different (for lack of a better term,because I KNOW there is only ONE race but we won't get into that)"races" to date,marry,and have kids. Now please forgive me if it seems that I am biased on this. But in my family there are quite a few of my relatives who have married "interracially". And it usually seems that the White side of the family has the most problems with it. The Black\Panamanian side is WAY more accepting. I've read certain comments on here regarding some pornstar because she did a scene with a Black guy she was 'damaged goods'? Wow. Almost like she could've gotten screwed by a horse and that would have been better. IMHO.

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