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I liked it, but it was racist.


I really liked this film, but I thought it was racist how they portrayed the white folk as being stupid like in thinking that you could cure rheumatism by putting your feet on top of a dog or a black kid.

Then they were racist by portraying a whites as incestuous - the guy was going to marry his cousin but found out she had been having sex with her brother.

I mean I still really liked the film, but thought they went out of their way to make the whites look bad.

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I haven't seen this in over 10 years, but I'll do my best.... I don't think that the intention was to make whites appear "stupid". Regarding the rheumatism episode, those were things that were "believed" in those days. I've come across stories of slaves being used as bedwarmers and footwarmers and such. And the biggest and darkest black person on the plantation had to be the first to cross over the doorway threshold on New Year's for good luck. We (I'm black myself) were not looked at as human beings, but as property, tools, things- simply something to please the slaveholder in any way. If anything, it was coarse and un-sugarcoated, but not racist.

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Yeah, I remember the Jeffersons. I believe George used to use the racist term Honkey, but you never heard anyone call George a *beep* or even a negro on the show.

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This reply is for both dioro and patrick9648. You two actually believe that this movie was adapted and filmed to make whites look "clueless" or "uptight." Is that really theme you elucidated from the film. It has nothing to do with Sanford and Son or the Jeffersons. I suppose movies like Schindler's List or The Grey Zone were produced to make Germans look "clueless" or "uptight." Those krafty Blacks and Jews always trying to stick it to american whites and germans. Come on really, you guys can't really believe that.

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Of course the film made whites look bad. Stupid, inbred. You are such a racist that you can't see that.

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Well, they were Southerners. Plus, the whites in the film were stupid enough to believe that black people were their slaves, so of course they were going to be portrayed as being stupid in general.

What exactly did you think the wealthy plantation owners were, Rhodes scholars?

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"Plus, the Northern, white Federal government in the 19th century was stupid enough to support the institution of slavery in the first place. So of course the United States had to go through a four-year Civil War to remedy the problem."

I don't think you know your American history that well.

Slavery was prevalent in America as far back as the late 18th century. George Washington even had slaves (though he set them free).

It wasn't a North and South thing. For one thing, there were no Southern states outside of the Carolinas and Georgia, which didn't matter because the cultural differences weren't as great.

As time passed and the South grew, that's when the cultural differences began to appear. The North just woke up earlier and came out against slavery sooner because Northern society was just built differently. The South eventually came around (to a point).

Despite what popular culture tells you, the outset of the Civil War had little to do with slavery. It was about a country that was coming apart due to cultural differences (and not just due to slavery). It was about societal differences, not just one issue. The Civil War was all about keeping the Union together.

I'm not sure what the point of your little diatribe afterwards is.

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I'm sorry for overreacting and being rude.

To be honest, my original comment really was meant to be derisive towards Southerners. Sorry!

You're right about the hypocrisy of America whitewashing what the Civil War was about (just about everyone I know who isn't an academic thinks it's about freeing the slaves). Being a Northerner myself, I'm not so delusional as to think that Lincoln's side was innocent.

The American government does have a sordid history with slavery. But while most of the U.S. presidents at the time were Northerners, it's not like the South didn't have its influence in American politics to keep slavery.

IMHO, I know I'm biased here, but I do blame the South more for the way it gave rise to groups like the KKK (who admittedly didn't confine their activities to the South) in the aftermath of the Reconstruction period all the way up until the Civil Rights era.

But then, I might be misreading Southern history and believing the same stereotypes that this movie showed.

Sorry again.

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Funny choice of words, "Rhodes scholars". They probably had more in common with Cecil Rhodes than you know ;-). Look him up and you'll see what I mean.

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of COURSE it was rascist,...that's the point of the whole film................sure the white folk did the wrong thing,... they were slave owners...........with dogs on their feet for rheumatism.............they were ignorant, even though they were the ruling class.........mandingos were men's play things for fighting,.............and woman's play things for loving............bad things happen to all in that environment

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I don't know I'm getting the idea that alot of people are saying slavery was more indentured servatude or not as bad as portrayed in this movie. Heck it was worse. Like people being kidnapped and brought here on boats. If you where chained to a couple of people who where sick and died they would heave all of you over board instead of taking the time to unlock you. People had eyes gouged out,ears cut off, feet cut off, and beaten within an inch of their life for trying to escape. Being a female meant systematic rape from whoever wanted you when ever they wanted you. And as far as the iincest thing... from what I heard it wasn't uncomon for families to marry distant cousins off in order to keep status, money, and power to themselves. It started in kingdoms wanting to keep power. I've heard it speculated taht it took severe birth defects in order to stop the practice.

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Sure, this movie was probably racist (have yet to view it) but it goes
both ways, especially depends on the producer/director's favor.

If racism was enough to stop everyone from viewing movies, nonfiction and fiction
films wouldn't have a viewership period. BE REAL.

The media distorts all. Take for example, blacks and slavery bit. History texts
downplay the fact that Indians or Whites were ever slaves. Firstoff, the Irish came to such a fashion---orphans were taken aboard ship from the area --thus the term kidnap from kidnabbing. Unsuccessful because it was easy to run the owner and blend in the crowd. Indians, nah, can't toil under those conditions. Francis Drake invited the concept of enslaving Africans. Which was met with disapproval. The rest is history.

My point--enjoy the movie with a grain of salt--it may ruin your pleasure.

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Ok, let's just say hypothetically the following never took place in this film...

"I thought it was racist how they portrayed the white folk as being stupid"

"thinking that you could cure rheumatism by putting your feet on top of a dog or a black kid."

"portraying a whites as incestuous"

"the guy was going to marry his cousin but found out she had been having sex with her brother."

That still leaves the fact white people during this time treated blacks like mechanical subhumans whose only reason for being was to cater to the white man.

Hard to believe you failed to see the "stupidity" in this revelation.








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I'm not a Southerner, but my primary focus as an undergraduate and now graduate history student has been Southern history. As for the whole slavery issue: It's not widely known that, while Southern nationalism, which had been percolating at least since the 1830s, started as a means to the end (preserving chattel slavery, certain patriarchal gender norms sometimes similar but still distinct from the North, generally upholding the much vaunted "Southern way of life") but ultimately became an end in itself. This is demonstrated that, far too late to be helpful, the Confederate government began offering enslaved men manumission in exchange for military service. There is basically a consensus now among Southern historians that, if it had prevailed, the Confederacy would have gradually abolished chattel slavery in order to further increase its manpower and, essentially, to save the Confederacy.

BTW, it's interesting, in light of some earlier posts, that the guy who played Mr. Bentley on "The Jeffersons" had a minor role in "Mandingo." Also, there actually was one episode where a Klansman addressed George as "boy." In the same episode, a Klansman and his son referred to Weezy and probably Florence by the n-word.

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In the south "home remedies" like that were commonly believed to work. To some extent, it probably did.

Have you ever seen someone with arthritis use a heating pad? It would accomplish the same effect, to warm up an ailing joint with a dog or small child.

At one time, incest did go on. FDR married his cousin for pete's sake.

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Tymical blaxploitation-dems whites be stooopid! Total rubbish!

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