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Only fifteen years in the past!


Something I find kind of wild to think about is that although the movie is a period piece set in two different eras, the 1959 storyline occurred only 15 years before the movie came out. That would be like a movie right now set in 2009. But although I am too young to remember 1974, it does seem like that particular 15 years must have seemed longer to people at the time. So much cultural change had happened over the interim, not to mention a big bloody and divisive war that the US had entered and lost during that span, the whole civil rights era, several different presidential administrations and assassinations plus Watergate, and for that matter the scenes in Cuba were from just before Fidel Castro had overthrown the Batista government.

And the cars, clothing, and hairstyles changed a huge amount for the average person, especially for young people, from 1959 to 1974. It all kind of boggles the mind, and it had to be very disorienting for people who were already middle-aged in 1959 and were just a little later into middle age by 1974 and found themselves in a world that had so profoundly changed. Which also explains why you had such popular nostalgic shows and movies like "Happy Days", "Laverne & Shirley", and "Grease", despite it being the same relatively short time span since the period depicted. I don't think in any other time in modern history there has been a nostalgia boom that occurred less than 20 or 30 years later, but someone can correct me if I'm wrong.

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beards (and to a lesser extent hairstyles and other fashions), smartphones, and the changes in the world post-2019, would distinguish a movie set in 2009 from now. Not to the same extent though, I'd agree.
Funnily enough I read a while ago that the original series of The Wonder Years ran from the late 1980s to the early 1990s and focused on the period in the late 1960s, so just 20 years earlier but would have seemed a lifetime earlier because of all the change in culture and society since then.
By contrast, made now with a similar time lapse, it would be covering the first few years of this century - 9/11, the Iraq War, hurricane Katrina, none of it feels as long ago as the 1960s would to someone in 1990.

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It's true, I watched "Wonder Years" as a kid and it did seem like it was portraying a faraway, long-gone era. But what I don't trust is whether a big part of that is because it was from before I was born? Maybe people who were middle-aged then (the oldest Boomers) were like "yeah, that wasn't so long ago".

People definitely had smartphones in 2009 though. Not maybe to the extent as now, but the iPhone debuted in 2007. So it does make a big difference when you see a movie made just barely before that (with flip-phones everywhere), or just ten years earlier, or less, when there weren't even flip-phones, at least not in wide circulation.

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Absolutely.

I was 13 in 1974, and 1959 seemed impossibly far in the past.
2009 does not, and not just because I’m older.

Speaking of 1974, I went to the fourth largest US casino recently on a Saturday night. The bar was packed with “kids” drinking and dancing to … a hit song from 1974, Redbone’s “Come And Get Your Love.” They knew the song, knew the lyrics, probably a few sang along.

In my youth, the very idea of even tolerating a 49-year-old song was unthinkable. Is that because culture changed so much more between, say 1925 and 1974, compared to 1974 vs 2024? Or is it simply that 50- and 60-year old hits sound great because the recording technology was there (if you could afford pro studio time), and we can now hear those same recordings in master quality, straight from the original tape, on digital disc or streaming, whereas in 1974 all we’d have had were squeaky old 78’s? Either way, it’s an astonishing social phenomenon no one could have predicted.

Another post in this forum asks whether the Godfather series would be interesting to today’s 20-year-olds. I’d say that depends: have they got a 77-inch OLED with Dolby Atmos surround sound and blackout curtains? Some films do better than others. Comedies like ‘Airplane!’ and ‘Stripes’ seem universally loved, at least by men, while minor classics like ‘Dirty Harry’ and ‘Bullitt’ are not. Family-friendly fare like the original Willy Wonka are universal, as evidenced by the recent several slot machine series found in casinos. So it seems 50-year old hit films are not as universally loved as 50-year-old hit songs.

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Those are some good questions and musings. I do think a lot of the reason people today can enjoy songs from the Seventies is definitely that the recording technology had advanced to where those songs still sound great today. But I'm sure, as you note, there was an aspect of it that had to do with cultural evolution as well.

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It seems like longer. I suppose there was more change in the culture over those fifiteen years than we've seen in the last fifteen.

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