Ending?


What is with that ending; Michael enlists in the military, everybody is pissed at him, then we cut straight to him sitting in his chair in the present day... and fade to black??? THAT'S IT??? I don't hate the film, I think its great, but the very last scene seemed like it was missing something. I expected a last Hurrah, but this movie didn't have that. What did you think of the ending?

Also, Robert De Niro was okay, but i think the Academy had a certain liking for Vito Corleone... and thats the only reason he won the oscar...

"What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?"

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Everybody was pissed at Michael except Fredo. Fredo supported Mike's enlistment. I don't know if that was the point of that scene in the movie, but we can imagine that Mike is remembering his past days with Fredo, and that Fredo was the one who gave his blessing to Mike's decision. Not his dad, not Sonny nor Tom. Only Fredo, the brother he had killed.

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And how things 'used to be'.

And, finally, how they are now.







What a dark, dark ending.

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Wait a minute... who am I here?

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"And how things 'used to be'.

And, finally, how they are now."
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^^^Very succinct way of putting it Doom.

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Holy *beep* I totally didn't catch that! Thank you. I get it now. I should pay attention more often.

"What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?"

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I think the flashback scene is to highlight the way that power corrupts . Look at the people in the room who are all the best of friends (apart from Sonny being mad at Michael for enlisting but even that is done out of love ) and then consider what each one does to the other .

The people in the room are Michael,Sonny,Tom,Fredo,Carlo & Tessio

Carlo betrays Sonny leading to his death
Micheal has Carlo killed in revenge
Tessio plots Michael's downfall and is killed on Michael's order with Tom's co-operation
Fredo (unwittingly) plays a role in an attempted assassination on Michael who then orders his death in revenge.


It's a very iconic scene and highlights the fact that while Michael has beaten off all of his enemies there's nobody that he really cares about left to share it with.

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Connie was also in that room. Though for awhile she is spoiled rotten and running around with men who don't care for her, she eventually sees the light and becomes the closest adult to Mike. Not that she plays a big part in this scene, but Connie will turn out to be Mike's truest soulmate.

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What do you mean? An African or a European swallow?

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I agree, plus it kind of shows Michael was at one time in charge of his destiny but fate has trapped him into a role he didn't want but has to accept and one which he was ironically supremely good at.

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And the anguish Michael went through in part 3 showed it was a mistake killing fredo and now he's paying for it with the grand mal seizure? He had.

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They are showing us everything Michael has lost: the brother who was murdered, the brother he murdered, the adopted brother he has pushed away, the idealism he once had.....

Forget it Jake. It's Chinatown.

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"They are showing us everything Michael has lost: the brother who was murdered, the brother he murdered, the adopted brother he has pushed away, the idealism he once had....."
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^^^OMG, so many great concise quotes in this thread!

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To speak to how you did for Robert DeNiro, he was the first actor to do almost all of his dialogue in Italian, and had too take on a role of one of the best actors whose performance won an Oscar. If you think about that time, people saw how DeNiro took a role, that was still Brando's character, and make it his own. He won an Oscar through playing the same character in a different light, and doing his dialogue in a different language.

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Though I agree with you, Pacino clearly was the better and more magnetic actor in both The Godfather 1 & 2 yet lost which is a crime IMO.

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"The best laid schemes of mice and men Go often askew, And leave us nothing but grief and pain..."
From the poem: To a Mouse, on Turning Her Up in Her Nest with the Plough"
-Robert Burns 1785

From the beginning, it was Vito's plan that Michael would be the family's foray into the legitimate world. Likewise, it was Michael’s plan too. However, upon Vito’s attempted assassination, Michael felt compelled to help his father. Michael’s actions led to his plans going awry.

By the end of The Godfather: Part II, we see a flashback of Michael as he was and then a picture of what he had become. Michael has the blood of so many men on his hands – including his brother. To underscore his pain, Michael is also estranged from his wife. Sitting alone, victorious and broken, with his plans in ruins, he might be thinking back to the day of his sister's wedding when he said:

“That my family Kay. It’s not me.”

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Pretty much - Michael always talks about family, but that last scene of his family that is all gone (Sonny murdered, Fredo killed by Mikey, Carlo killed by Mikey, his sister hating him, Tom outed from the family). What family is he talking about anymore? In the last shot he's old, alone, and miserable.

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You all have made so many good comments on this thread. They were great to read, and very helpful.

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In the first film after Sonny dies and Michael becomes Don, Vito talks to Michael and says he didn't want that life for Michael. He goes on to say that Michael would be a normal man, but a powerful man being a Senator or a Governor. Michael went in the military to get away from that life style, but slowly but surely, he does get mixed into the crime business. It shows a flash back of that scene of his family then fast forward to the end of the second part of the film. He's old and alone. Parents have passed away, Sonny was killed, Carlo, and Freddy as well. Tom is gone, Connie and him don't have the best relationship, and Kay and him have separated. It goes to show how much things change by the decisions we make in life. Basically, it's was portraying how much things have changed.

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The point was to show the final contrast between the past and the present. That was a major narrative theme throughout the film, with Vito's rise and gaining a family contrasting with Michael losing his family and his personal downfall.

In the final flashback the contrast is also ironic and tragic. We see that Fredo is the only one that congratulates him for enlisting. When the scene concludes, we also see that Michael's decision to defy his father's wishes and enlist has left him alone and isolated at the dinner table. Yet the path he's chosen is one of more promise.
Cut to the present and that promise is gone. We see Michael alone again in his compound - his personal choices and decision to follow in his father's footsteps leaving him isolated.

The image preceding this of his father holding him as their train departs the old country symbolises that his family and traditions gone. That Michael's desire to maintain and control his Family in the more modern age has left him broken and alone.

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