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Could they possibly have found an uglier actress?


I mean Karen Black, seriously? I have no idea how this woman ever became a star, with that lazy cross eye that never looks right at you. This woman is fugly. And having to watch her "emote" for an hour as she flew the plane was an hour of my life I'll never get back.

They should have had the hot blonde stewardess fly the plane. Now her, I wouldn't mind looking at for an hour.




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She was very popular at that time, appearing in dozens of movies--one after another--in the 1970s. They even put out a personality poster of her, with long legs showing, and she did ads for a pantyhose brand featuring her gorgeous gams. But the consensus was, she wasn't a raving beauty. Still, in the '70s, actors could look a little odd or unusual, and it was OK.

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She's very very attractive, in a natural way. Some people are far too used to the plastic manufactured actresses we see around today. In the '70s, certain models and actors who looked a little idiosyncratic, were quite rightly famous: Lauren Hutton with her gap teeth springs to mind.

Karen Black STILL looks great in MHO.

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I guess if a cross-eyed look is attractive and natural she's okay- being cross-eyed is definitely idiosyncratic! Hmmm, 60s and 70s actresses were plenty plastic- look at all those looooong false eyelashes, too much makeup and over-done hairstyles. Actresses today generally look much more natural to me facially and with their hairstyles.

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MORE actresses today have had surgery than they did in the past. Because they have to conform to the stupid ideals of perfection, that certain people want. A symmetrical face IS NOT natural. So what if Karen Black's eyes are crossed? Is your face perfect? It should be her acting abilities which count the most, and she did okay in the movie - It was Shakespeare after all. Are you really that shallow?? Apparently, YES!!

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I'd argue that the "stupid ideals of perfection" were around back then too. That's why all those "natural" actresses back then ALL had to wear those ridiculously long false eyelashes, overdone makeup, etc. There was conformity back then as well. News for you, they had boob and nose jobs done back then too! I don't understand the shallow bit- we're talking about ONE particular actress whom I have never thought to be that attractive (or a particularly good actress) I didn't once say she was ugly at all- and her cross-eyed look was a feature of hers that was brought up from time to time, in the same way the gap between the teeth of Lauren Hutton was (not as positive attributes in either- I think they were seen as two well-known women who had overcome those "drawbacks", as shallow as that may sound).

When I said that actresses of today look more natural to me than back in the 60s/70s I meant that in general makeup is applied better/looks better, hairstyles look better and don't have that overdone hairspray welded in place look. Certainly the actresses of that older era were generally allowed to have curves and proportions closer to the average woman than today's anorexic ones with big boobs (which is so ridiculously bizarre). That there is a certain look of today, for a symmetrical ideal face and a general sameness to the look of so many actresses and models I won't disagree- though I would think it was something along those lines back then as well. What I'm talking about is what that symmetrical or not face and head is wearing or having applied to it! I think there's been an improvement over the 60s and 70s in the naturalness of how these faces look.

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I reckon Karen Black is a very sexy lady, crossed-eyed or not.

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"I reckon Karen Black is a very sexy lady, crossed-eyed or not.
I couldn't agree more!And she still looks pretty good even today. YES! Cosmetic surgery has been around a very long time - even the Egyptians did it! - But, as it was so expensive in the early '70s, it was still the preserve of bored Beverly HIlls housewives in the main. Actresses very rarely had boob jobs with the frequency that they do today, just to keep up with the bimbos who end up on TV now. What concerns me, is that teenage girls that haven't even fully developed their bodies, want "Breast augmentations".

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I'm with buckaroobanzai on that one. Too many actresses have plastic surgury done because society is so *beep* shallow to appreciate natural beauty (with flaws). Christy Brinkly is gorgeous for a woman in her mid 50s, but she's got some flaws here and there, but who doesn't? It pisses me off that teenage girls get boob jobs just because the stars are doing it. Society makes me sick!!!!!!

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That's just stupid and superficial.

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Calling her ''ugly'' is quite a stretch. She's not ugly at all-and she has aged well.

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I don't think that Karen Black is all that bad looking. I've seen worse.

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Cross-eyes are hot. Have you ever seen Black in the movie Nashville?

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I'm probably wrong...but, doesn't Karen Black actually have a glass eye or is that just Sandy Duncan?

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Sandy Duncan never lost an eye, she lost sight in one eye because of damage to the optic nerve. Peter Falk and Sammy Davis Jr. come to mind of actors who had lost an eye.

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I don't know...jurmother ever do any acting?

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Only when she was in bed with you last night.




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" Just ignore it and it might go away "

Got that line directly from your mother. Sound familiar?

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I think she is pretty and did a great job with the role

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you dumb piece of garbage

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Right back atcha, f@ckface!




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I can't argue with you questioning her looks cause we all have different tastes, but:

They should have had the hot blonde stewardess fly the plane. Now her, I wouldn't mind looking at for an hour.


Karen Black was a much better actress, though. That's why she was chosen as the lead. I thought she did great in this.

I think if the movie came out today, they'd go for someone who looked flawless. However, someone like Karen Black was classy and had some talent. You don't see performers of her caliber much anymore. Plus, looks shouldn't be everything when it comes to actors. I'd take a plain actress who could act over a bimbo with no talent.

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Karen Black was one of the "countercultural possible stars" who emerged with the men of the 70's. You can find Karen Black in Easy Rider with Fonda and Hopper, and in a major role with Jack Nicholson in Five Easy Pieces. That her looks weren't conventional was part of the deal. She did play sexual parts, too -- like in "Portnoy's Complaint" with Richard Benjamin(Black plays a gal nicknamed "The Monkey" for her sexual moves), and in Drive He Said (with Bruce Dern, also of "that generation") for director Jack Nicholson. Black and Bruce Dern reteamed to support Robert Redford and Mia Farrow in The Great Gatsby, where Black's role was "white trash among the wealthy," -- rich man Dern's mistress.

The trouble began for Karen Black when various studios and directors tried to make a "regular star" out of her. I guess she must have taken on a contract with Universal and Universal put her in "Airport 1975," and she didn't quite fit the cheapjack melodrama.

Black's biggest opportunity to become a major "serious" film star came with "Day of the Locust" (1975) by director John Schesinger (Midnight Cowboy)...prestige director, prestige novel, prestige Paramount movie, Karen Black top billed. And it was a big arty flop. The material was simply too downbeat and symbolic to be a hit.

Came 1976, Karen Black and her old pal Bruce Dern reteamed yet again -- surprisingly -- to star in Alfred Hitchcock's Family Plot. A Universal contract deal for Black. Everything about that movie seemed "wobbly" -- Hitchocck was no longer in his prime(despite a recent hit in Frenzy) and Black and Dern turned out to be "the lesser stars who said yes" after Faye Dunaway and Jack Nicholson(Dern's pal) turned them down. "Family Plot" ended up as Hitchocck's final film, a small film but not a bad one, but Karen Black didn't seem much of a star in it(she was outclassed by co-star Barbara Harris in the film.)

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Oddly, amidst all these movie roles, Karen Black did a TV movie that turned out to be famous. It was called "Trilogy of Terror" -- three different stories, only one of which was memorable but pretty scary for TV: it was about a "devil doll" with a knife chasing Black all around her apartment with murder on his lil biddy mind.

Still, the fact that Black DID a TV movie in the same year she did "Day of the Locust" suggested that she wasn't really cracked up to be a star. And within a few short years, she wasn't a star anymore.

I'll concede that her looks may have been part of it. Her offbeat beauty and lower class manner FIT the counterculture of Easy Rider, Five Easy Pieces, and Drive He Said. But when she tried to move up and over into "mainstream film" (Airport 1975, an Alfred Hitchcock movie)...she looked lacking.

Still -- she's passed away now and her career HAS those counterculture classics, and Hitchcock's final film, and even the camp stardom of Airport 1975 -- there's a whole book on 70's movies with the title "The Stewardess is Flying the Plane!}

That would be Karen Black....

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