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did this movie offened most christians??


did this movie offened most christians?? I need to know the answers becuase me and my friend are having a huge fight over it.

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I was in Catholic school at the time of its release and they took us on a school trip to a movie theatre to see this. I also remember them playing the Broadway album many times in school. The funniest part is I have NO recolection of this movie at all. I have seen the show twice on Broadway but as for the film I need to get the DVD to see if any of it strikes a memory.

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In 1973, I was eleven years old and my mom took me to see this. Ten minutes into the movie she was mortified and wanted to leave. "Dirty hippies screeching and dancing half naked!? Blasphemy! We're getting out of here right now!" I wanted to see the half naked hippies, myself....

I just watched it tonight and it is truly an amazing achievement! The songs are mesmerizing and glorious. It is so visually arresting and hypnotic; it's hard not to love it.











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This sounds more like a reaction to the musical 'Hair'.

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I can't speak for "most Christians," but I do know that a good number of Christians are. I am not one of them, mind you. I loved this musical.

The sad part? One girl with whom I discussed this show said something along these lines: "Jesus Christ Superstar? Isn't that pretty anti-Christian? I mean, I've never seen it, but that's what I've heard."

Some Christians are just going to be put off by anything that depicts Jesus but doesn't shove down your throat how he is divine.

Here's a breif list of common complaints I've heard complete with my rebuttals:

1) Both Judas and Mary refer to Jesus as, "Just a man."
1a) Both are human characters and shouldn't be expected to know everything that is going on. Furthermore, Judas is the villain and Mary implicitly questions her own statement of such after she sees his prophecy of Peter's denial come true.

2)Jesus can't manage to heal a crowd of lepers.
2a) While incarnated, Jesus gave up his *independent* use of his divine powers. He only has them by faith in the Father. The leper scene is supposed to indicate the extreme stress through which he is going.

3)Judas is too sympathetic and he is thus made out to be the hero while Jesus is then the villain.
3a) Basically what they're saying is that nobody who does evil things can have a good reason for it. Screw understanding how people think and act! They're just evil for the heck of it!

4)There's no resurrection.
4a) Just because they didn't depict a resurrection doesn't automatically make it heretical. Bach didn't and he wasn't a heretic. The focal point of the story was Jesus' sacrifice. Hence, that was the ending. The musical isn't about what came afterwards. Besides, the shepherd wandering through the final shot implies resurrection.
4b) Yes, I am well aware that the shepherd thing was unintentional, but the fact that it was left in says something.

Regardless, I didn't find anything in this movie to make me label it heretical or detrimental to anyone's faith. To be fair, I disagree with their interpretation of Judas' motivation, but that is such an incredibly minor thing that I can let that slide.

"I'm the RA, and as the RA, I'm supposed to be the fun-sucker. I *beep* the sun."
-Abe Christiansen

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It's interesting that you think of Judas as the villain and as "evil." I think just the opposite, that he's the protagonist and the most sympathetic character in the movie/play.

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I don't actually think that. I was speaking the way people who get offended by this movie would speak of it for sake of effect.

"I'm the RA, and as the RA, I'm supposed to be the fun-sucker. I *beep* the sun."
-Abe Christiansen

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I am a Christian, and I do not find the movie offensive. I think this film, more than most others, portrays the human emotions that the real life people felt, and it portrays them in a way that modern audiences can relate to. Also, seeing things like grenades and prostitutes being sold in the temple conveys to a modern audience how depraved it had become.

Another portrayal that I think is spot on is the disciples in "What's the Buzz" and "Last Supper." All they can do is focus on themselves - they keep coming back to singing the same chorus even after Jesus and Judas have their climactic argument!

I definitely do not think that Mary Magdalene was Jesus' wife or anything like that, but I don't think it is sacrilegious to portray her as being confused about her feelings toward Jesus.

There are a few things that muddle the gospel a little: Does Jesus know he is divine? Are we to infer that Judas is saved? etc.

I would recommend this movie to both Christians and non-Christians. For Christians who already know the gospel, I think it can help broaden your understanding of the human side of the gospel. For non-Christians, I would suggest you watch the film, understand that it is not an exact depiction, and ask yourself the same question Judas asks, "Who are you? What have you sacrificed?" The answer to that question is why people become Christians.

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Oddly enough, what I thought would be most objectionable to Christians is barely mentioned here on this thread: The title song that is performed in the end by Judas: Jesus Christ Superstar. He seems to come down from Heaven, looking like a rock star after betraying Jesus and hanging himself, and pretty much tells Jesus that he is a fool to die such a death and for what? And Jesus doesn't seem to have an answer, but just walks around looking delusional.

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I was an adult when the play came out, I was in the audience on the old David Frost show when he had Rice and Webber and Yvonne Elliman who did two of the songs.

There were two gents in said audience who were very offended and walked out.

One of the very first remarks (in the papers) were something about how dare they have a black actor playing Judas.
Of course when it was seen that Mary had a thing for JC, then they went nuts.
Many other things I can't recall.

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But they didn't mind a blue-eyed, blonde, non-Jewish guy from Texas playing Jesus?



To answer the OP...I loved this movie and soundtrack back when I was a Christian and was not offended by it in the least. I actually preferred this version to the one in the Bible.

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Jeremy Sisto who played JC in the 1999 Mini Jesus isn't a Jew either.
Neither The Last Temptation of Christ's Willem Dafoe
or for that matter the other two actors Jeff Hunter or Max von Sydow
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I didn't get that impression, but I can see how you would. I read "Superstar" as either Judas legitmately coming down from Heaven or Jesus imagining what Judas would say were he still alive. Regardless, it was a way to test Jesus' resolve. Is he truly what the people say he is and is his sacrifice truly worth anything? That is the question he must answer by willingly going to the cross.

"I'm the RA, and as the RA, I'm supposed to be the fun-sucker. I *beep* the sun."
-Abe Christiansen

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One of the things I was always taught is that after the crucifixion Jesus went to what they Jews referred to as sheol. Sheol is where the dead go upon dieing. Before the final Judgement. he went there to collect those that believed and take them to be with him, and God the father.

I always saw that scene as exactly that. Judas is there, but then again so is everybody else. Saved or not. I did not see the scene as blasphemous because Just because Judas is demanding answers does not mean Jesus has to give any. He was among men and they could touch and examine him, and question him for 33 years of life, and 3 years of public ministry. By this point as he himself said " It is accomplished."

While I cannot remember the name of the parable there was one he told of a rich man, and a beggar, that after they both died, one went to Abraham's bosom, and the rich man went to a place of torment. When the rich man saw God he begged him to go unto his brothers and tell them how it was after death if they did not change their ways. I may be misremembering. But I believe what God said was... "even if a man were to rise from the dead, and tell them, they would not change." or something to that effect. In other words... I think that by the time Jesus went to sheol to collect the believers... while Judas is still questioning and demanding answers.. he is not getting any. He got enough while alive.

It does show his short-sightedness. He sings :

If you'd come today you could have reached a whole nation,
Israel in 4 BC had no mass communication...

And yet... History tells us that in the lifetime of Jesus... The Roman Road system connected all parts of the Roman Empire. The Roman Empire had controlled the then known world. And everyone spoke a common tongue... Greek. So while it had no mass communication it had a language everyone in the empire could understand, and a Roman Road transportation system to carry the message abroad. The irony is, that having 2000 years to spread the word, He (Jesus) did not reach a whole nation as Judas brags he could have today. He reached the entire World. I bit of humor that I doubt was not missed by Rice & Weber.

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It shouldn't. If it does, than perhaps those particular christians need to take another look at Jesus and his role as a king.

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I'm a lot more offended by "The DaVinci Code" than I am by this movie. Why don't Opie and Forrest go make a movie about Mohammed instead.

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When I was a teenager and taking classes for my confirmation (I'm catholic). Our teacher was putting on a 3 hour movie about a Jesus, so I said "Can't we just watch Jesus Christ Superstar instead?"

I got kicked out of the class.

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I've always loved the album and the movie, but I was one of those born-again teens in the early '70s. My mother was offended by it and my father wisely kept his opinion to himself. I still don't know what he thought of JCS, now that I think about it all these years later.

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y Christian father is not offended by it. But then, he's not "most Christians". He's pretty liberal/progressive. He's also fairly enamored of music and pop culture from the late '60s and early '70s. There are different sorts of Christians, you know. In fact, he introduced me to the movie when I was a kid. I wouldn't call myself a devout Christian now but I still am deeply drawn to Superstar and it has also helped open me up to exploring opera and theatre.

What's funnier to me is when people say, "I like it and I'm not even Christian". Although it's about Jesus and his life and times, I don't think this is truly a Christian piece of art. It's not necessarily anti-Christian either, as I think open-minded, relatively progressive people of any religion should be able to appreciate it. I don't believe that Andrew Lloyd Webber or Tim Rice are particularly religious. While Superstar is a play about religious figures, it is not really about religion. It's actually about taking the religious accounts that are crystalized in the culture and in many people's minds and creating a multi-dimensional drama out of them, a human drama. Superstar is also fundamentally a piece about independent thinking and questioning at a very deep level. That's not necessarily diametrically opposed to religious belief but it is rather antithetical to total indoctrination. Although Superstar is based upon religious personalities and writings, it does not come across as a religious piece because it was not composed for religious reasons. I find that refreshing. Religious figures and stories can be quite interesting and it's cool not only to have a different angle but also to be able to have some venue to explore these figures and stories without feeling like people are trying to convert me. Or at most, all they're trying to convert me to is theatre!

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