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What is the big deal about this movie?


It doesn't deserve 7+ rating. I am a big Clint Eastwood fan. But this movie is aimless and a drag. It's just Clint indulging himself with all his mannerisms and Directorial inspirations he learned from other Directors of his earlier movies. All that preparations in the town like painting red, picnic tables, shooting practice etc. and then when it's time he leaves the town for nothing and then comes back to do a one-man show with a boring climax. I think we just like a movie out of nostalgia and brand it as classic if it's too old. This is not one of his best movies acting or direction.

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I think 'High Plains Drifter' quite effectively examines the stereotypes comprising the mythology of the Old West. When fans of the genre hear the word "sheriff," they probably think of Matt Dillon ('Gunsmoke') or similar characters. Like 'High Noon', I think Eastwood's dark Western serves to show that it likely wasn't a case of "hero vs villain," and that selfless, valiant defenders of justice may not have been so easy to find. (For another title which explores this theme, I'd recommend an old Fred MacMurray film, 'At Gunpoint!')

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compare and contrast this film to an earlier film...who shot Liberty Valence

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Liberty Valence is a great movie.

Somewhat hard to compare the two, except both sheriffs were worthless.

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Does it ever say what territorial prison the three men get out of?

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I just watched the film and they don't mention it.

Although we can make a pretty good guess based on where Lago is located. The town of Lago was built next to Mono Lake in Northern California, just to the east of Yosemite near the Nevada border. When Clint rides into town there is a tombstone dated 1882 as the date of death for the person in the grave.

Folsom prison is not too far away from Mono Lake and was first built in 1880 and is the second oldest prison in California. Nevada state prison in Carson City is also not too far away and was built in 1864.

Folsom and Carson City seem to be the most logical places where Stacey and his boys where jailed, but I'm not sure if either was a territorial prison.

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Cuz it's one of the first supernatural westerns

~ I'm a 21st century man and I don't wanna be here.

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He's a vengeful spirit, he doesn't need to have a hard time dispatching baddies.

~ I'm a 21st century man and I don't wanna be here.

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I agree.
Maybe in 1973 I could see why it's a hit because it's Clint Eastwood back in a western. But I 1st saw this movie on tv in the late 70s' and I didn't like it.
I then saw it on video uncut in the 80s' and I didn't like it.
I then saw it on laserdisc in widescreen and didn't like it.
I saw it again in 2016 on dvd and still do not like it.

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First of all I do not accept at face value the assertion that the OP is a "big" Eastwood fan. Or maybe a fan of his but not is westerns? Point being I have a hard time seeing how this film is categorically different in some deficient way from his other westerns.

And then the presumption to assume those who like it do so out of some "nostalgia" for what? that it is "too old"? What the F does too old mean here? Obviously the OP is talking about his own pov rather than others.

The funny thing is at the time, and rightly still so, HPD was and is viewed as in the category of revisionist westerns, and HARDLY is nostalgic about the time period and historical circumstances in which the film is set. As such the OP cannot possibly be making any sense in saying the film is nostalgic in that regard.

So instead it is supposedly nostalgic for what? An early seventies revisionist western? I have a hard time making sense of that sort of assertion.

As for the reference to what effectively is the middle third of the film, between the if you will reaching agreement on the deal with the nameless stranger and the last third, when Bridges and partners get out of jail, to "preparations", the OP has entirely missed the point. This in fact is where the main thematic points of the film were best covered - the distance between how the townspeople wanted to see themselves and what they really were, their lack of civic virtue in the Machiavellian sense, the infighting among themselves in the face of a common danger and why and how that occurs, and of course most of all how and why they had it coming, meaning how the ending of the film made sense.

To take a specific example, say the picnic tables, their purpose I think is clear. the food and alcohol set out on them was meant to symbolize the ambiguous and ambivalent nature of the relation of the townspeople to Bridges and his gang. Things offered, but not really meant to be, offered without expectation they will be accepted, all going back to what was their backstory of the deal they had that neither side really wanted to have, and to live up to. But not only that - the tables showed the shaky relation between offers of material goods and moral virtue, shaky because of that very ambivalence of purpose, not to mention how offers of objects and morality have a tenuous at best relationship.

Despite the assertion of Eastwood fandom here, I think the OP did not get this film.

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Dude, the idea of a vengeful spirit coming back to punish a town is refreshingly original. I think it is one of his best.







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This movie isn't for everyone. It's not a John Wayne as the hero saves everyone type movie.

It's a dark revenge movie. For the movie to "work" you must see Clint Eastwood's character as either the spirit of the dead sheriff or acting in some way to avenge the dead sheriff. It works on that level. If you try to look at it as a traditional Western, it doesn't work.

I admit to liking revenge movies. Not sure why. Check out Dogville for a movie with similar themes as this one.

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It's a black comedy, one I happen to enjoy but to each their own👍

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